2015 August 02 Sunday
Grade School Teachers Discriminate Against Boys

Boys get lower grades for the same level of proficiency. They have to work harder and make more money as adults to compensate.

Separate schools for boys and girls would help. The boys would only get rated against each other. This is the sort of thing you have to do to compensate for systematic sexism.

Share |      By Randall Parker at 2015 August 02 01:48 PM 


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SC said at August 5, 2015 12:30 PM:

So basically what you're saying is that boys have lower average levels of conscientiousness than girls, and that schools should only factor in IQ of students when giving out report cards. This is utter BS. Everybody knows that most people can't survive in this world off their IQs only; highly conscientious people do better than lower conscientious people. It varies by race too. Are you gonna say that Blacks, Native Americans, Inuits, and Pacific Islanders should get higher grades too?

Get over it. Conscientiousness is just as important, if not more important as IQ when determining academic success. This is why White women, Jews and Asians can achieve more than what their IQs would have predicted.

SC said at August 5, 2015 12:32 PM:

So basically what you're saying is that boys have lower average levels of conscientiousness than girls, and that schools should only factor in IQ of students when giving out report cards. This is utter BS. Everybody knows that most people can't survive in this world off their IQs only; highly conscientious people do better than lower conscientious people. It varies by race too. Are you gonna say that Blacks, Native Americans, Inuits, and Pacific Islanders should get higher grades too?

Get over it. Conscientiousness is just as important, if not more important as IQ when determining academic success. This is why White women, Jews and Asians can achieve more than what their IQs would have predicted.

Seth W. said at August 5, 2015 1:02 PM:

True, and that's not only in schools.

The trend seems to go on and on in movies and tv, where the husband/family man character is portrayed as an idiot who is always made to look like a fool and corrected by the wife/children. Yes, the lay-low half a man who just can't say: "hey, get over it kid and no matter what your castrating mother says, I cannot make it to your queer baseball school game or christmas play because I have to work so you can have food on your plate"

I'm getting pretty tired of this trend, not so much because everybody whatches that crap, but because everybody seems to buy it and start living their lives thus.

Castrating mothers will always produce little sissy mama's boys and whimsical little brats.

T said at August 5, 2015 2:38 PM:

"This is why White women, Jews and Asians can achieve more than what their IQs would have predicted."

Actually White women and Asians (and I suspect Jews) achieve far less than their IQs would predict. Nearly everything in the world was produced by White men.

Check it out said at August 5, 2015 4:53 PM:

Right now there's a constant discrimination against men in general. Specially men who refuse to put up with women's stupidity and qualming over how a man should educate his sons to be men.

The U.S. has become a nation of loud queers who take feelings and tears as arguments.

Brett Bellmore said at August 5, 2015 5:15 PM:

"So basically what you're saying is that boys have lower average levels of conscientiousness than girls, and that schools should only factor in IQ of students when giving out report cards."

No, the study equalized on the basis of academic performance. The boys had 'behavior problems', or to put it a different way, didn't act like girls. So they got graded down despite doing the work and passing the tests.

I see that with my own son; Constant complaints about his behavior, (Scuffing the dirt on the playground was one of the complaints!) though his academics were good enough to get him put in AP straight from kindergarten.

The boys were equally "conscientious" in the sense of doing the work demanded of them.

SC said at August 5, 2015 7:52 PM:

@T

That's only when you're looking at the extreme right tail of achievement. Stop being disingenuous. Everybody knows that White women and Asians have higher average levels of functioning in society but White men (and Jewish men) have a higher standard deviation. That's why compared to White women and Asians, there are more White male inventors, discoverers, explorers, etc, but also more prison inmates and prematurely dead.

@Brett

Academic achievement correlates with IQ, but it also correlates with conscientiousness (definition here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Five_personality_traits#Conscientiousness) and introversion. Get over it. Just like many Black and Hispanic children are lacking in IQ, your son is lacking on conscientiousness. Apparently you think that kids should only get judged via metrics that favor White boys.

Jim said at August 6, 2015 3:56 AM:

SC - What is the evidence that Jews and Asians (Northeast Asians I presume) achieve more that their IQ's predict?

Brett Bellmore said at August 6, 2015 7:51 AM:

Apparently you think that kids should only get judged by metrics that favor girls.

The job of the school is to teach things, academics. My son excels at academics, to the point where at 6 he's helping my wife with her college biology homework.

But he *scuffs the dirt on the playground*, and gets marked down for that.

Let me repeat that: He got marked down for *scuffing the dirt on the playground.*

He gets marked down for acting like a little boy, not a little girl.

Yes, "conscientiousness" is good, and he could stand to do better at it. But he's a six year old BOY. Biologically, conscientiousness isn't very likely.

SC said at August 6, 2015 7:59 PM:

@brett

No, I don't think that kids should only get judged by metrics that favor girls. I have always respected STEM majors more than liberal arts, humanities, visual arts, and performing arts majors, and last time I checked most STEM majors are guys.

Your last sentence shows that you're still against judging people by conscientiousness for the sole reason that your son is lacking in conscientiousness. Get over it. Most Blacks and Hispanics are lacking in a lot of things, society shouldn't bend to them just because they lack stuff. Society shouldn't bend to your son just because he lacks conscientiousness.

Metrics of judgement should apply to every one, not just the people who score highly on those metrics.

Jim said at August 7, 2015 6:43 AM:

SC & Brett Bellmore - In all cultures boys are more physically active than girls. Sitting still for long periods in class is harder for them. They need more recess time and more opportunity for physical activity. I do think that elementary schools could be a little less biased against little boys. Just because they're not little girls doesn't mean they're bad.

ErisGuy said at August 29, 2015 3:23 PM:

Good. Be tough on boys. That which does not kill us makes us stronger. The stronger sex will and must rule the weaker sex.


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