2015 January 17 Saturday
Barack Obama Really Said This
Across the internet I've repeatedly come across a sentence attributed to US President Barack Obama which I thought couldn't really be true. I say this as someone who thinks Obama is a bad president. But after seeing it enough times I went searching for it and found the sentence on whitehouse.gov. Well, here is an except of Barack Obama speaking to the UN General Assembly in 2012. Anything catch your eye here?
The future must not belong to those who target Coptic Christians in Egypt -- it must be claimed by those in Tahrir Square who chanted, "Muslims, Christians, we are one." The future must not belong to those who bully women -- it must be shaped by girls who go to school, and those who stand for a world where our daughters can live their dreams just like our sons. (Applause.)
The future must not belong to those corrupt few who steal a country’s resources -- it must be won by the students and entrepreneurs, the workers and business owners who seek a broader prosperity for all people. Those are the women and men that America stands with; theirs is the vision we will support.
The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. But to be credible, those who condemn that slander must also condemn the hate we see in the images of Jesus Christ that are desecrated, or churches that are destroyed, or the Holocaust that is denied. (Applause.)
A slander, by the way, is a false statement made to damage a person's reputation. I'm curious to know what Barack thinks is slanderous among the things that get said about Mohammed.
By contrast, I agree with Ed West that mockery is essential to reform Islam (assuming its reformation into something less hostile is even possible).
Islam really is incompatible with a free society. Assuming you support a free society this is something very important to understand in light of demographic trends and immigration trends in Western countries and around the world.
By Randall Parker at 2015 January 17 01:35 PM
If westerners had adopted Islam it would reflect the traits of Western people, not the traits of Arabs etc.
I think that the various cultures influence Islam more than the other way around. That is why I believe it is virtually impossible to 'reform' Islam because you can't change racial traits.
Don't bring up objections about 'Arab Christians' being different. They are an endogamous group that might as well be considered an entirely different ethnicity.
Until the liberal democracies of the West are willing to admit that, by continually testing radical social theories (open borders, anti-sexism, anti-racism, homosexual marriage, etc.) on unwilling peoples, they are de facto theocracies and anything but "free societies", Islam will continue to make inroads in the West as the more viable alternative. Indeed, if I were a particularly Machiavellian imam, I would have my assassins running around the West spiking the drinks of realists with brain damaging substances to ensure that the West gets more and more Holocaustianity rammed down its throat until it BEGS for Islam to take over.
The pope (little p) said, of Islam, that you should not insult peoples' religions, and said he would punch someone if they insulted his mother, so he sorta sides with the terrorists.
I am thinking up 'yo mama' jokes now, so that if I ever meet the pope, I can say something about his mom and recieve a pontifical punch in the face. His holiness ought to be careful though, because him getting arrested for felony assault would prove really awkward, although it would burnish his image as a regular guy.
Mockery won't work, because they'll just kill you if you do. What's needed is more direct action: torching mosques, assassinations of imams, etc. Let them know that we won't put up with this shit in what are still our lands. I sure hope to see that in my lifetime.
" Let them know that we won't put up with this shit in what are still our lands."
What do you mean "our lands"? Aren't you Jewish? Jews are Semites like Muslims.
"Indeed, if I were a particularly Machiavellian imam, I would have my assassins running around the West spiking the drinks of realists with brain damaging substances to ensure that the West gets more and more Holocaustianity rammed down its throat until it BEGS for Islam to take over."
Maybe they're already doing that, except instead they're spiking the drinks of the mainstream media to get them to promote things like shit-eating until people get so disgusted that they beg for it to protect them from the sewage of New York and Hollywood:
"The Booty-Eating Renaissance"
"Anilingus is having a moment.
Long considered a taboo in heterosexual circles, oral-anal sex, or anilingus—known colloquially as "tossing salad," "rimming," and "eating booty"—has been a steady topic of conversation over the past few months. Trend pieces have been written in New York, GQ, and Cosmopolitan. Chris Brown Instragram'd (then promptly deleted) a picture of himself licking a model's ass with the caption "Eat da booty! #idgt [I don't get tired] lol." Nicki Minaj, on her latest single "Anaconda," speaks of a man who "[tosses] salad like his name Romaine." Straight people seem to have finally discovered that they too have assholes that can be explored for sexual pleasure; that gay men don't have a monopoly on anuses.
Naturally, the turn toward publicly embracing anal pleasures among heterosexuals is not without its critics, many of whom call anything involving that region "gross," "dirty" and/or "gay." The sudden popularity of eating booty brings an array of questions to the fore—Is this a 'queering' of straight sex? What has been the cause of this shift in attitudes? Is booty eating completely mainstream now? And, perhaps most interestingly, who is and who isn't 'eating da booty,' and whose booty is getting eaten?"
To Moshe - The ultimate logic of what you say is genocide. I would suggest ending the mass emigration of alien people into the West and then instituting a program of paying them to return to their homelands. Admittedly it may be too late to avoid massive bloodshed.
To Tyler - Ashkenazi Jews are a hybrid people (about 50-60% genetically European mostly Mediterranean European). They no longer really belong in the Middle East. In Israel their numbers are in decline. The Promised Land will not be for them.
"The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam."
I've used that quote quite a bit since it seems odd that this is a statement by an American President. If an Egyptian President had said it, it wouldn't have raised an eyebrow, but instead, the President of Egypt last week has been tougher on Islam than the American President has. Obama doesn't think the issue is Islam, but something called Extremism, which has nothing to do with Islam but it by odd coincidence seems to mainly be adopted by Muslims. I guess that will forever be a mystery...
But I believe that Islam is (at least now) is incompatible to Western Civilization. Luckily for Muslims Western Civilization seems quite happy to put itself out of business,
I remember hearing once that an American general - I believe in the Philippines - would kill violent Muslims and openly, publicly bury them in pits filled will dead pigs. I understand it was extremely effective in quelling Islamic violence. Imagine if France took the two dead Muslims who executed those at Charlie Hebdo and publicly buried them with pigs. I think a clear message would be sent. Only the Europeans can do this, it would never happen on American soil. The courts here would be involved the next day.