2014 July 19 Saturday
Christians Flee Mosul Iraq En Masse

A consequence of George W. Bush's Iraq invasion: Christians flee Iraq's Mosul after Islamists tell them: convert, pay or die.

In theory George W. Bush is Christian. He no doubt believes himself to be. But in a previous era the quite Christian French and British governments intervened to protect Christians in the Middle East precisely because they were Christian. Now even when a Christian is in the White House (and that's not always the case - Barack Obama only pretends) the interests of Christians in the Middle East are disregarded by our elites. But then the interests of the majority of Americans with regard to immigration are disregarded as well.

The Christians in Iraq were much better off when Saddam Hussein was in charge. I would like to get right in front of George W. Bush, point this out, and see if he tries to squirm out of admitting it. My guess is he won't admit it.

The old America I was born in has died. The losses from that death will continue to play out for decades.

Share |      By Randall Parker at 2014 July 19 08:48 PM 

Gerard Mason said at July 19, 2014 10:50 PM:

I always counted myself as one of America's friends in Britain. Sadly, I see that the country I and my parents always respected and defended has been replaced by another country of the same name, and that that country is one I am beginning to wish would leave the rest of the world alone.

Jim said at July 20, 2014 10:51 AM:

Saddam was brutal but he was a secular modernist in the Arab world. As predicted by many people, democracy in the Middle East leads to the triumph of religious fundamentalism and vicious ethnic/religious strife.

Wolf-Dog said at July 20, 2014 12:42 PM:

With the exception of Lebanon, where Christians used to be the majority (which has already been replaced by a Muslim majority), the only Arab countries where Christian minorities were treated fairly, were Saddam Hussein's Iraq and Assad family's Syria. In fact, some of the top generals of Saddam Hussein were Christian Arabs. Although Saddam was a homicidal maniac, the religious extremists have been far worse by any standard. Syria is the last place in the Middle East where Christians are OK, thanks to Assad.

We shall see if emigrating to Europe from the Middle East will save the Christian Arabs from becoming dhimmis in the long run:)

James Bowery said at July 20, 2014 1:52 PM:

The solution is obviously to draft all of the evangelical Christian young men and send them to the middle East where the top-flight medical facilities of the US military will keep them from dying so they can all return to the US with various forms of PTSD if not outright brain-damage to receive the sympathies of their erstwhile potential mates who will turn to the vibrant and healthy immigrant men as sires of the next generation of Evangelicals.

Bob said at July 20, 2014 5:37 PM:

The Christians in Iraq and the Middle East are from various Middle Eastern Catholic sects that Protestant Evangelicals have never been in solidarity with.

Generally, Protestant Evangelicals in the US don't care about these Mideastern Christians. Evangelicals are pro-Zionist and care about Israel. If these Mideastern Christians were Evangelicals, then Evangelicals in the US might care more, but they're not.

Matt@occidentalism.org said at July 20, 2014 9:23 PM:

You will never get an answer from GWB as you say. I would like to ask GWB's idiot evangelical supporters how they can support this. Does anyone have information on the average IQ of a white evangelical?

Bob said at July 20, 2014 10:56 PM:

This has nothing to do with IQ. Like I said, Mideastern Christians tend to be of Catholic and Orthodox sects, which Evangelicals have traditionally been hostile to and regarded as heretical. Evangelicals don't have a lot of solidarity with them.

Kudzu Bob said at July 20, 2014 11:06 PM:


Evangelicals worship Jews. And when they're not busy doing that, they bring back low-IQ babies from Africa.

patrick said at July 21, 2014 2:02 PM:

That's true about evangelicals and Middle Eastern Christians (vs Israel) although better-informed evangelicals seem to be caring more (the megachurch types are an exception). I notice more concern about Middle Eastern Christians from Catholics and Anglicans. Lots of them are in communion with the Catholic church, and the Church of England still seems to remember that bishops from that part of the world played a big part in establishing Christianity in Britain in the Dark Ages (look up Theodore of Tarsus).
The Iraqi Christians are traditionally Aramaic speakers, who are descended from the ancient Mesopotamians (they don't normally consider themselves Arabs). In the early years of Islam (the Abbasid Caliphate) Greek-speaking Syriac Christians were largely responsible for the transfer of Greek learning to the Islamic world. They declined in the Islamic persecutions that followed the Mongol invasions (Tamerlane killed off hundreds of thousands of Christians in Iraq, Persia and Central Asia).

Wolf-Dog said at July 22, 2014 12:25 PM:

Here is another article about the situation of the Christians in Iraq:


And here is a discussion of the discrimination against the nearly 10 million Christians in Egypt. A virtual Apartheid:


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