2014 February 17 Monday
Minimum Wage Against Open Borders Coalition

A large coalition of really big money pushes for open borders. Why? Their desire for cheap labor.

How to take the energy out of that coalition? Make the minimum wage so high that the users of really cheap labor would not benefit from a larger supply of it.

How to raise the minimum wage? Thru voter referendums in all the western states.

Share |      By Randall Parker at 2014 February 17 10:32 PM 

Stephen said at February 18, 2014 12:07 AM:

I've said this before, but a high minimum wage actually benefits illegal immigrants.

This is because employers who hire illegal immigrants will be paying them less than the minimum wage (its not as if the illegal is going to call the cops) and will thereby have a competitive advantage over legit employers.

Also, illegal immigrants also get a pay boost (because there's more demand for them as legit employers turn to illegal labour to stay competitive), which in turn attracts new illegal immigrants into the country.

leftistconservative said at February 18, 2014 8:01 AM:

democracy in america only happens at the local level.

Immigration, healthcare, income and wealth taxation, and other issues should be handled at the state and county level.

Stop mass immigration, raises taxes on the upper class, provide universal single payer healthcare, stop race spoils/affirmative action, and allow racial segregation. All these much needed reforms can only come at the local level.

AWC said at February 18, 2014 8:16 AM:

Not that I'm against increasing minimum wage per se, but the problem with Unz's argument is that many European countries already have fairly high minimum wages and nonetheless attract many illegal immigrants.

Wolf-Dog said at February 18, 2014 4:02 PM:

If minimum wage is raised sufficiently, then the US corporations will find it relatively more profitable to move the factories and many service jobs directly to foreign countries.

Nevertheless, raising the minimum wage will accelerate automation, and hence the quality of life for even the unemployable in the world.

Randall Parker said at February 18, 2014 10:11 PM:


Euro countries have more welfare benefits for immigrants. Take Britain for example.

Toddy Cat said at February 19, 2014 7:08 AM:

After the mess that they have made for the last twenty years, I'm pretty much against anything that the American and European elites are for, and vice versa. Seriously, have these jokers gotten anything right since the end of the Cold War? If so, I missed it. So what do Goldman Sachs and Make Zukerberg want with regard to the minimum wage? Whatever they want, I want the opposite, and I'm not kidding...

Nick said at February 22, 2014 12:53 AM:


I agree with you. Go into any Home Depot parking lot in California in the mornings and see dozens of illegals getting picked up by local contractors. What does raising the minimum wage do to any of them or the millions of illegals working in America today? Also, what's stopping employers from paying legal citizens less than the minimum wage, under the table. Tax-wise it works out better for both sides, while the more clever ones still collect unemployment on top of this. As far as automation, how does that help the lower classes who have no work? Government benefits will run out, or will have to be dramatically curtailed. I don't see an alternative to ever expanding project-type housing, essentially colonies for the ghetto poor that are policed by robots (a la Elysium). Now that's automation!

Russ said at February 24, 2014 7:41 AM:

Stephen and Nick. Those immigrants can sue the employers immediately after the job for paying them less than minimum wage. They get treble damages and the lawyers get paid attorney's fees from the employer. I know lots of lawyers that do this but mostly they catch the employers not paying overtime. Trust me, no one is going to pay illegals less than minimum wage. Hardly anyone pays illegals less than minimum wage now. Why would they do it in the future?

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