2013 October 26 Saturday
Few Believe Immigration Deal Will Seal Border

The public know elected officials are lying: 5% Think Feds Very Likely to Seal Border if New Immigration Law Passes.

Most states have seen a drop in median incomes in the last 12 years. I expect this trend to continue. Automation basically reduces the demand of the top stratas of society for the lower stratas. If you do not bring to the table the ability to be highly productive the upper classes will opt for machines and foreign labor instead of your labor. You've got to sell your labor for less.

Plus, immigration has brought a large surge in the populations at lower skill levels, a surge that looks set to continue just due to babies already born and growing up. If you are competing with them for jobs as truck drivers, janitors, fast food restaurant worker, roofer, and the like then expect to get paid less as the ranks of your competitors grow as a fraction of the total society.

On the bright side: If you've been skating thru life performing below your cognitive ability then you've got the potential to learn better skills and move up-market. The sooner you do it the easier it will be. Don't wait till you get laid off from some job in an industry where demand for your labor is collapsing. You will suddenly find yourself unemployed for a long time or working for a much lower salary. Once you've taken that hit to your earnings you'll have less money and time to use to spend on retraining.

Share |      By Randall Parker at 2013 October 26 11:34 AM 


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WJ said at October 26, 2013 2:20 PM:

"If you are competing with them for jobs as truck drivers, janitors, fast food restaurant worker, roofer, and the like then expect to get paid less as the ranks of your competitors grow as a fraction of the total society."

This is true now, but wasn't quite as true in the early 20th Century. In the era before outsourcing and globalization, America could absorb ever more unskilled immigrants to feed growing American industry. But times have truly changed. Immigrants living in the US may be cheaper than American workers, but they're still far more expensive than people in China or Bangladesh, where pay, regulations, and working conditions are worse. All that modern mass immigration does is allow businesses to drive down pay and benefits in occupations that can't be outsourced.

That's why the people who evoke our glorious Ellis Island days when defending mass immigration today are wrong. This immigrant wave will beat down living standards and bury us. There is mo upside to bringing in tens of millions more unskilled, uneducated workers.

WJ said at October 26, 2013 4:31 PM:

Take a look at those median income stats by state. This week, businessmen, lobbyists and former/current state Republican pols will be flooding the Capitol trying to cajole and/or bribe Congress into passing amnesty plus a *massive* increase in legal immigration. One of the most prominent Republican pols in the effort will be Haley Barbour, the Governor of Mississippi from 2004-2012. Median incomes in Mississippi fell by 15%, most of it on Barbour's watch. Only Michigan did worse than Mississippi.

The establishment pols would piss in our Corn Flakes just to spite us. Their brazen contempt for the American people is incredible.

radical centrist blogger said at October 26, 2013 4:53 PM:

there was never any upside to immigration. It has always been the rich vs the american citizens. One of the weapons used against the citizens is mass immigration.

Until we expose and understand the true course of history and the true nature of this conflict, we cannot progress.

Funghiz said at November 5, 2013 4:11 AM:

Unfortunately there is no way to stop the evil.


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