2013 June 06 Thursday
Obama's Surveillance State And Terrorist Immigrants

The editorial board of the New York Times complains Obama's surveillance state goes too far.

Within hours of the disclosure that federal authorities routinely collect data on phone calls Americans make, regardless of whether they have any bearing on a counterterrorism investigation, the Obama administration issued the same platitude it has offered every time President Obama has been caught overreaching in the use of his powers: Terrorists are a real menace and you should just trust us to deal with them because we have internal mechanisms (that we are not going to tell you about) to make sure we do not violate your rights.

Hey, if terrorists are such a massive threat that the US government needs to suck data out of the servers of the biggest internet companies, with more internet companies joining, with all Verizon call records turned over to the Feds (and likely the same for other phone companies), then isn't it time to stop letting the kinds of people into the country that make the threat so seriously large?

Take the Boston running event bombing. If some Chechens hadn't been allowed into the country the bombing never would have happened. We are not under any obligation to let in Chechens. Our elites will argue otherwise of course. But their interests and our interests have diverged and the distance between the interests of the majority and the elites keeps getting wider every day. They want to manage us with a massive surveillance program so they can let anyone into the country. Oppose it.

My advice to you: stop watching TV news. Unplug from the most powerful propaganda sources. Our elites pump out reality distortion messages. Your challenge: figure out the people who have taken the Red Pill and read them.

Share |      By Randall Parker at 2013 June 06 08:21 PM 


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Wolf-Dog said at June 7, 2013 2:25 AM:

Randall Parker wrote: "Hey, if terrorists are such a massive threat that the US government needs to suck data out of the servers of the biggest internet companies, with more internet companies joining, with all Verizon call records turned over to the Feds (and likely the same for other phone companies), then isn't it time to stop letting the kinds of people into the country that make the threat so seriously large?"

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The purpose of the data collection about incoming immigrants is not just to filter out undesirables, but at the same time, to select and accept those immigrants who are desirable: During and before World War II, when Germany, Hungary and Italy were hostile against the United States, the US accepted pro-American and anti-fascist German, Hungarian and Italian nuclear scientists , who later became the key instigators and participants of the Manhattan Project. And the graduate students of this generation of immigrant physicists later became the backbone of the US defense establishment. The US intelligence managed to discriminate between pro-American and anti-American European immigrants at the time, although some Nazi spies did manage to get through.

Now, at the present time, most immigrants are seriously investigated, and although the system is far from being perfect, it will be possible to distinguish between useful and those Middle Eastern immigrants who should not be given visas, and the ones who are friendly and economically productive. Obviously the system failed in the case of the Boston terrorists, but the fact that these Boston terrorists were already under some degree of suspicion (by intelligence services) before their attack, is quite encouraging. By increasing the quality of the surveillance, it is possible to make is much more efficient in the future.

J. said at June 8, 2013 9:47 AM:

The purpose of the data collection about incoming immigrants is not just to filter out undesirables, but at the same time, to select and accept those immigrants who are desirable

That's a nice idea, but I see no bias toward immigrants who are "desirable" in the sense you describe in the Gang of Eight, or anywhere else in the federal government. I've abandoned the idea of a secret government agency working for our national well-being. Leave that to the X-Files. I believe the opposite. Witness the fact that three years ago NASA Administrator Charles Bolden announced that NASA had been charged with the task of improving Moslem self-esteem. I don't at all think the surveillance agency would be used to influence immigration policy in the way you describe.


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