2013 June 01 Saturday
The Positive Influence Of American Culture On Muslims?
19% of US Muslims are unprepared to say that suicide bombing is never justified. Do you feel relieved? That compares favorably to 28% of global Muslims who take the same position. The Cathedral (i.e. major media and universities) members can absorb this information with their faith unshaken.
I would like to know whether this difference in attitudes between Muslims in America and the rest of the world is due to more highly educated Muslims coming to America as compared to those living in the rest of the world. Or is the difference due a blend of Muslim ethnicities and nationalities come here which is not like the average distribution in the Muslim countries?
If you are a witness to a terrorist attack in the US beware of getting your name into the press. It can get dangerous. What percentage of the rest of the American citizens and immigrant residents believe suicide bombing is ever justified? My guess is very very low.
By Randall Parker at 2013 June 01 01:49 PM
Small request, would you mind not using the term "The Cathedral" to refer to the evil Frankfurt School media/academia/government cabal that has declared war against ordinary Americans? Yeah, "The Cathedral" is catchy, but it's a term coined by a commenter coming from a specifically anti-Christian perspective. I'd argue that cathedrals represent the highest art, architecture and aspirations of mankind.
Mencius Moldbug's use of "The Cathedral" has caught on. It is a shorthand used by a number of alt right commentators which is becoming well understood. So I'd like to know: are you referring to Moldbug? If so, can you point to some essays that raise your ire regards Christianity?
Also, he's referring to a very secular group that is strong in faith in their secular belief system. What I like about using Cathedral in this context is that it draws attention to the fact that they've replaced a supernatural faith with a secular one while pretending otherwise.
You could sell the western population on suicide bombing easily enough if it came down to it. People certainly have no problem with 'suicide missions' in the sense of attacks with a very low chance of the attacker surviving, e.g. Doolittle's raid on Tokyo or, say, the Spartans at Thermopylae. For that matter there was some South American national hero, whose name escapes me, who is lionized for blowing himself up (with the house) in the basement of a house where enemy generals/leaders had gathered. Finally, it doesn't make a lot of sense to accept self-immolation (as with Buddhist monks) as a legitimate protest, accept blowing up your enemies with bombs as a legitimate means of war, but then somehow find repulsive the thought of combining the two into suicide bombing. There are of course variations that are repugnant for other reasons: for example, those cases where the Islamists recruit the mentally handicapped to act as suicide bombers, or rape some girl and then present suicide bombing as a kind of redemption. But that's a separate issue.
If the number of casualties is the same, I see no significant difference between suicide bombings and school shootings, except in the phrase since many school shootings are also suicide shootings.
Both are forms of generalized revenge against people who did nothing to the perpetrators, so it is never justified. Revolution on the other hand would be something different and it could sometimes be justified, even if the number of casualties is greater. When? When governments become the terrorists.
"I would like to know whether this difference in attitudes between Muslims in America and the rest of the world is due to more highly educated Muslims coming to America as compared to those living in the rest of the world. Or is the difference due a blend of Muslim ethnicities and nationalities come here which is not like the average distribution in the Muslim countries?"
Probably both. American Muslims are thankfully unrepresentative of Muslims around the world.
'The Cathedral' is in fact Christian, specifically mainline Protestant, more specifically Non-Conformist Protestant. They dropped God and kept the rest. Moldbug shows that conservatives accept a false version of history when they deny the Christianity of the American establishment.
You are free to interpret Moldbug as anti-Christian; however, he recently said that the Restoration will only arrive if carrying the banner of the Cross. (restoration being his political prescription) For example, a Stuart restoration would crown a Catholic King of the United States. (the current Prince of Liechtenstein).
Reverse all of the disastrous Anglo-American revolutions.