2013 April 28 Sunday
Sequestration Cuts Section 8 Housing Vouchers
Josh Barro of Bloomberg News is unhappy that Congress took the time to pass a special bill to get all the air traffic controllers working during the sequestration budget cuts. His complaint: Congress hasn't shown the same attention to assuring the continuation of welfare state benefits for poor people.
Meanwhile sequestration is forcing an 11 percent reduction in benefits to approximately 1.8 million long-term unemployed Americans. It has also led state and local housing agencies to stop issuing Section 8 housing vouchers to families on waiting lists. Congress has not rushed to fix those problems.
Defect or feature? A search on "section 8 housing ruining neighborhoods" turns up a number of pages that Josh Barro ought to read.
The problems with the welfare state:
- We are taxed to pay for it.
- The size of the parasite class is growing.
- The welfare state tries to impose the parasites upon us in our own neighborhoods
If Leviathan just wanted to take a slice of our income for bread and circuses and if the slice would not grow the damage would at least be limited to the slice of one's income. But the people who justify Leviathan insist upon messing up our lives too. Ruined schools. Ruined neighborhood parks. More crime. More dysfunction. I'm opposed.
James Bovard provides lots of section 8 crime disaster locations.
But the dispersal of public housing residents to quieter neighborhoods has failed to weed out the criminal element that made life miserable for most residents of the projects. "Homicide was simply moved to a new location, not eliminated," concluded University of Louisville criminologist Geetha Suresh in a 2009 article in Homicide Studies. In Louisville, Memphis, and other cities, violent crime skyrocketed in neighborhoods where Section 8 recipients resettled.
Read the whole thing. If you want to help the non-dangerous poor how to do that without bringing criminals along with them?
By Randall Parker at 2013 April 28 06:03 PM
Racism again. If blacks and hispanics can't get cheap housing, how could they afford $100 sneakers and noisy mufflers on their tricked-out cars? Perhaps Justin could take a few of these unfortunates into his own home...
I've lived in a Section 8 apartment complex. The vast majority of tenants were white. (nationwide, only a minority of housing voucher recipients and public housing tenants are black) The vast majority were either elderly or disabled. None of them had tricked out cars and I didn't notice any $100 shoes. When a bad storm took down trees that damaged many of the tenants vehicles, many couldn't afford to get a replacement. Crime was practically nonexistant. Bloggers such as you and Sailer don't have a clue about Section 8, besides making really ignorant assumptions about a program based on a lack of real evidence. (hysteria about blacks invading white neighborhoods seems to be all the evidence necessary) This idiocy in public opinion prevents a lot of involuntarily impoverished people from getting help that they need.
I've seen those section 8 complexes. They are in Maine, NH and Vermont. Those recipients do not have the negative externalities of the others. While blacks + hispanics make up a minority of section 8 recipients, they are overrepresented compared to population demographics.
I have different problem with Barro: He writes "state and local housing agencies to stop issuing Section 8 housing vouchers to families on waiting lists. Congress has not rushed to fix those problems."
I don't think is the federal government's job to provide housing. The reason housing is expensive in many areas is because of local regulations. They frequently severely restrict the amount of apartments and townhouses. Many places would do not allow any trailer parks. Housing is cheap and affordable where there are few restrictions on mobile homes even for people making the minimum wage:
a poor disabled person said at April 28, 2013 11:47 PM:
You are a liar and a DWL.
I've lived in a Section 8 apartment complex. The vast majority of tenants were white. (nationwide, only a minority of housing voucher recipients and public housing tenants are black) The vast majority were either elderly or disabled. None of them had tricked out cars and I didn't notice any $100 shoes. When a bad storm took down trees that damaged many of the tenants vehicles, many couldn't afford to get a replacement.
Please tell me where this apartment complex is. I'm serious. I donate a fair chunk of my limited income to a mentally ill friend who lives in a Section 8 apartment house. The occupants are disproportionately black or Hispanic and the building is very noisy, so she can't sleep. She is constantly taunted as the crazy lady (e.g. a neighbor enjoys turning up his stereo until she screams). I want to get her to a livable place.
"If you want to help the non-dangerous poor how to do that without bringing criminals along with them?"
No blacks or hispanics. Segregate.