2013 February 21 Thursday
If You Think The World Economy Is Headed To Collapse

A person who could choose where to live in preparation for world economic collapse ought to consider Iceland as their refuge. Iceland has one of the lowest murder rates in the world. Plus, Iceland has such cheap geothermal electric power that aluminum smelters have relocated there and Iceland is thinking about exporting electric power Europe. So Iceland can keep the electric lights on after TSHTF.

Could Iceland grow a lot of its food in greenhouses in the winter? It has cheap electric power to provide the lighting. So what would the fruits and vegetables cost? How self sufficient could it become?

If you've got to stay in the United States then I'm thinking Idaho's lowest rate of unsolved murders puts it high up in social capital and capacity to maintain civilization under extreme conditions.

Share |      By Randall Parker at 2013 February 21 09:53 PM 

Uglier-than-thou said at February 22, 2013 5:14 PM:

I'm not sure the Icelanders, a very close-knit bunch, welcome immigration.

James Bowery said at February 22, 2013 5:50 PM:

That's pretty funny. Iceland was where I was thinking of going when I was a high school member of ZPG and looking for geothermal resources existing in isolation from large populations. However, I think it would be tragic if their rather unique and tiny gene pool were invaded -- particularly now that they have shown themselves capable of throwing elites in prison for bankster fraud and demonstrating the resulting economic "miracle".

Leave them the f*** alone!

In 1990 I paid my girlfriend to visit New Zealand to see if she liked it in possible preparation for moving there. Geothermal, english speaking and at least somewhat isolated physically. On the other hand, has a government that is deeply hostile to its own British descendants and is importing immigrants as fast as it can -- with its immigration and naturalization offices clogged to the gills with South Asians and Middle Easterners even as they refuse immigration from Zimbabwe by farmers who can't escape being hung upside down and skinned alive while they watch their wives and daughters being raped. You see, as one Kiwi told me (who had moved to Stevenson, WA where I lived) "We don't want those racists moving into New Zealand!".

So I hardly think you should be concerned about doing damage to New Zealand's gene pool at this point.

Randall Parker said at February 22, 2013 7:07 PM:


You'd certainly need to make a compelling case for why the Icelanders should let you in. But if you can convince them (e.g. special skills) it would be very well situated to do well as the world goes to hell.

In event of a Zombie Apocalypse I'd sail for Iceland. Arriving by boat would demonstrate you aren't infected.

Wolf-Dog said at February 23, 2013 2:53 AM:

The way to avoid the economic apocalypse is to find an inexhaustible source of cheap energy.

Iceland has already established this kind of energy: it is the geothermal energy that guarantees the survival of Iceland (despite the financial bubble that was completely artificial.)

But it turns out that it is the United States that has the technological leadership and total net production in the world.

Here is a very detailed MIT study about the future of Geothermal Energy; it says that there is enormous potential if we develop the drilling technology in the future:


Although geothermal energy is not infinite, in practice it will be sufficient for millions of years even if we squander most of it.

Detroit said at February 23, 2013 10:34 AM:

Places with no blacks would be good, even in the best of times...

Thisguy said at March 1, 2013 1:41 PM:

Iceland bans strip clubs, printed pornography and is trying to ban Internet pornography. Not a fan of strip clubs, but I worry about such a place.

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