Your Ad Here
2013 January 27 Sunday
Talented People Leave Great Britain

Brain drain from Britain.

Office for National Statistics figures obtained by Mr de Bois show that in the ten years to 2011, a total of 3,599,000 people permanently left the UK.

A small percentage were retirees. Most were between 25 and 44 years old. I bet they are more educated than the average Brit who stayed. After all, legal immigration into most countries is skills-based. Australia and New Zealand are the most popular destinations.

The Labour Party's leader apologizes for being too easy on immigrants. Whereas in America the Democratic Party pretends that immigrants are an unalloyed benefit.

Ed Miliband has suggested he could limit foreigners’ rights to benefits in the UK as he apologised for Labour’s failures on immigration.

It is very reasonable and entirely moral to want to regulate who gets to immigrate into a country. It is very reasonable and entirely moral to set the regulations on immigrants in order to benefit the people who already are citizens of a country.

America's immigration policy is unlikely to improve. So mentally I've moved on. What we need: A country where only talented people can go.

Share |      By Randall Parker at 2013 January 27 08:17 PM 


Comments
chris said at January 28, 2013 4:59 AM:

Return to your ancestors country of origins and defend it against liberalism/leftism.

Black Death said at January 28, 2013 6:28 AM:

The US is sure to follow. The combination of ballooning deficits and unrestricted immigration means that it's essentially over here. The Lefties have won. Sooner or later the crash will come, and it won't be pretty. I'm old enough so that it probably won't make much difference to me, but America's best days are clearly behind her. Nothing ahead but trouble and strife. If I were young, I would clearly consider getting out while the getting is good. When the ship starts to sink, you want to be in the first lifeboat, not fighting over the last one. A technical degree (say, something like engineering or medicine) from a prestigious university ought to help. The question is - where to go? I would forget the EU - it's probably worse there than here. Switzerland is very nice, but you have to speak one of their languages, and citizenship is hard to obtain (although Tina Turner, of all people, just became a Swiss citizen). Australia and New Zealand? Maybe. Elsewhere?

Horspool said at January 28, 2013 7:58 AM:

Switzerland isn't as good as it used to be. They have a serious creeping leftism/transnational-progressivism/muslimist-Stockholm-syndrome problem there, and Swiss internal politics are now a struggle over whether to dissolve Switzerland into the EU in order to atone for the sin of being too white and prosperous. Remember the "Swiss minaret controversy?". The problem isn't really the minarets, it's the influx of muslims who want to erect them. Note that Switzerland has already gone off the gold standard, abandoned bank secrecy and begun to help foreign governments enforce foreign taxes is Switzerland, and imposed gun control to disarm conservatives.

SOBL1 said at January 28, 2013 11:10 AM:

Randall, The Brits emigration issue has been going on for years, and the remnants of the old Empire (the Anglosphere) are the recipients of such talent. Any idea on a potential regrouping nation for productive US citizens? I used to consider Argentina or Chile my escape locations if things went bad for productive Americans, but those don't look so hot now, especially with the extradition treaty changes of recent history. I'm starting to think, despite the language barrier, Russia. They have a more traditionalist approach, there is a resurgence in the Orthodox faith, they have an eye on the problematic features of Islam, and the cost of living is lower than the US. Plus, my son would have a great chance of marrying a thin woman. The '80s kid that I am, I can't believe I am typing that, but it's like we've become the internal interventionist, centrally planned Marxist state, and they are the traditionalist country wary of cultural marxism.

Black Death said at January 28, 2013 12:03 PM:

@Horspool -

Sorry to hear about Switzerland. I don't know that much about it, but it's always seemed very pleasant when I've visited. I guess we can cross that off our list. What's left?

Check it Out said at January 28, 2013 2:56 PM:

"What we need: A country where only talented people can go."

Why would we need that? I mean, why would we need talented janitors, dishwashers, harvest gatherers or even dumb university teachers?

Besides it would be worrying if one were talented but among the least talented and therefore one would feel as untalented.

Or boring. Who would talented people have to laugh at? Besides, since many terrorists have also been very talented people, I would have my reservations.

What do you mean "talented"? Is it people who have been lucky enough to be born with enough money to have the knowledge opportunities poor people never had, like going to good schools, traveling, etc. (?) Please, hold the IQ scores for once. Instead I would like to know what characteristics a talented person has, when it comes to decision making when betting at poker, choosing fruit, picking colors for clothes, choosing shoes, cars, tv shows, couples, etc.

It's really not a good idea to feel so talented specially if our mentality is reduced to one particular type of country, culture, community and orthodoxy.

Randall Parker said at January 28, 2013 8:21 PM:

SOBL1,

Russia lacks social capital. Between the government and people there are no mediating private organizations to help people oppose oppression and corruption in government. There's not enough free press.

We do not have a good general alternative.

If a single industry that required lots of brains concentrated itself in a single small country that country could be transformed. A government would need to step up to the plate and try to do that. Imagine Ireland tried. Keep out everyone below 120 IQ or below $1 million net worth. Strongly encourage smart people to come in. Get a big venture capitalist presence. I don't think they'll try.

Black Death,

New Zealand seems too small and remote to economically transform into a brains magnet. Australia could pull it off if it became much more selective on immigration talent levels.

chris said at January 29, 2013 4:56 AM:

"Russia lacks social capital. Between the government and people there are no mediating private organizations to help people oppose oppression and corruption in government. There's not enough free press."

What good did it do the US?

SOBL1 said at January 29, 2013 6:31 AM:

Randall, I'm not worried about the freedom of the press. The press is the enemy on how many different topics in the US because it is run by socialist indoctrinated and hand picked PC warriors? In Russia, I would like to see development of 3rd party institutions, and as Russia gets more daylight between the fall of Communism and the current period, this may happen.

Australia is already in the white guilt spider web with their media and libs leading the way. They do have the natural resources to provide a good set up. You are right about New Zealand being remote, but what if that's all we get like the rebels of Huxley's Brave New World who only had the Falkland Islands for isolation and freedom?

Would an African or South American coastal nation with low population density and economic development allow such a set up? Couldn't Blackwater provide security, and these brain workers and PC refugees pay and establish the colony or mini-nation. Considering euro and asian city population densities + nuclear power, the need for space would not be high. South American nations are already copying the American import people worse off than the natives, so that might not be doable.

I'm sticking with Russia as the best option right now.

SOBL1 said at January 29, 2013 6:35 AM:

Randall, I'm not worried about the freedom of the press. The press is the enemy in how many different avenues in the US? In Russia, I would like to see development of 3rd party institutions, and as Russia gets more daylight between the fall of Communism and the current period, this may happen.

Australia is already in the white guilt spider web with their media and libs leading the way. They do have the natural resources to provide a good set up. You are right about New Zealand being remote, but what if that's all we get like the rebels of Huxley's Brave New World who only had the Falkland Islands for isolation and freedom?

Would an African or South American coastal nation with low population density and economic development allow such a set up? Couldn't Blackwater provide security, and these brain workers and PC refugees pay and establish the colony or mini-nation. Considering euro and asian city population densities, the need for space would not be much. South American nations are already copying the American import people worse off than the natives, so that might not be doable.

I'm sticking with Russia as the best option right now.


Post a comment
Comments:
Name (not anon or anonymous):
Email Address:
URL:
Remember info?

      
 
Web parapundit.com
Go Read More Posts On ParaPundit
Site Traffic Info
The contents of this site are copyright ©