2012 November 10 Saturday
UK Selectively Enforcing Right To Not Be Offended

Brits are being arrested, and some even jailed, for what they say on Facebook and Twitter.

One man angry about the war in Afghanistan was ordered to perform 240 hours of community service for declaring on Facebook that "all soldiers should die and go to hell." Police also went knocking on the door of a 17-year-old boy who tweeted an insulting message to Olympic diver Tom Daley, saying that he had let down his dead father by failing to win a gold medal. He was arrested, but released and given a warning.

In the United States speech restrictions are big on campus and demonstrate how America's Left would like to cut back freedom of speech. I suspect that the electorate is going to swing so far left that future left wing presidents will appoint Supreme Court justices that will eviscerate speech rights of people with rightward-leaning views. Basically, some ways of thinking will become criminalized.

The right to not be offended will be enforced selectively against those who hold heterodox views that elites have delegitimized.

Beyond the law, some observers also detect something deeper at work in British society, what Hughes calls "the beginning of a culture of people thinking they have a right not to be offended."

I figure my publicly stated beliefs might eventually land me in jail if I live long enough.

Share |      By Randall Parker at 2012 November 10 01:05 PM 

t0msl1ck said at November 10, 2012 10:14 PM:

"I figure my publicly stated beliefs might eventually land me in jail if I live long enough."

Or you could move, but where to? Singapore? Randall mentioned the country before as a possibility. Then I read this:


"In August last year, while on a social visit to Singapore, he spoke at a political forum 'where he alleged that the rule of law was bypassed and corrupted in Singapore, and questioned the independence and integrity of the judiciary,' said MHA.

But he did not have a permit to speak."

James Bowery said at November 11, 2012 12:18 AM:

Civilization is group selection. Group selection is war. The relentless mockery and exploitation of the Western Civilization is recognition that it is, in essence, uncivilized compared to the invading cultures. The individual is a cell to group selection. Sexual perversion becomes the essence of civilization.

Mirco Romanato said at November 11, 2012 2:16 AM:

"The right to not be offended will be enforced selectively against those who hold heterodox views that elites have delegitimized."

This could push these people to organize against the establishment and build communities resilient to the power of the government:
if enough people is pissed off, they could have a good reason to leave or create better pastures (seasteading).

But you underestimate the economic mess the next POTUS will inherit in 2016. It will be enough to disembowel much of the power of the US government (and many others governments) to impose its will on people.
As I argue elsewhere, when government is only able to pay with funny money they print, people working for the government look for second jobs.
Yes, the government will remain the bigger gang but its ability to impose its will will be severely restricted.
Elites can delegitimize only if they hold enough power. Government elite can no delegitimize when the government is out of money. Being out of money delegitimize them.

bbartlog said at November 11, 2012 5:49 AM:

'when government is only able to pay with funny money they print, people working for the government look for second jobs.'
This is kind of an end stage which can only happen once some competing currency is on the verge of displacing the government's. In the meantime, however, you can see that federal employees are making some serious money compared to the average wage earner. And given the massive size of the dollar economy, even a trillion dollars per year of newly printed dollars won't lead to Zimbabwean inflation any time soon. It just taxes all the other dollar users.
That said, I agree that the federal government's ability to enact its will in a goal-oriented way is eroding. When so many of those involved are there for purely self-interested reasons, and many of them are incompetent to boot, it becomes a monumental organizational challenge to get anything useful done.

Randall Parker said at November 11, 2012 10:52 AM:


Seasteading costs too much. One is better off getting an island.

So you see a period coming up where the delegitimizing power of government and other major institutions is impaired? Is this happening in Greece? I would expect Americans to politically react to 25% unemployment with a lot more anger than Greeks have done so far.

Could enough people come in and buy influence in a small country to create a great environment for productive people? Say in Belize or Uruguay or perhaps some Pacific island?

R. Ellenstein said at November 11, 2012 2:30 PM:

In the United States, the political system is a very marginal affair. There are two parties, so-called, but theyíre really factions of the same party, the Business Party. Both represent some range of business interests. In fact, they can change their positions 180 degrees, and nobody even notices. In the 1984 election, for example, there was actually an issue, which often there isnít. The issue was Keynesian growth versus fiscal conservatism. The Republicans were the party of Keynesian growth: big spending, deficits, and so on. The Democrats were the party of fiscal conservatism: watch the money supply, worry about the deficits, et cetera. Now, I didnít see a single comment pointing out that the two parties had completely reversed their traditional positions. Traditionally, the Democrats are the party of Keynesian growth, and the Republicans the party of fiscal conservatism. So doesnít it strike you that something must have happened? Well, actually, it makes sense. Both parties are essentially the same party. The only question is how coalitions of investors have shifted around on tactical issues now and then. As they do, the parties shift to opposite positions, within a narrow spectrum.

R. said at November 11, 2012 11:38 PM:

"Hush Rush" II is coming. The internet is the real battleground, and they'll go after that too. I actually don't care if they silence Rush with a new "fairness act", if there is one truth that has come out of this civilizational disaster it's that the Republican party and the Conservative establishment have to die, or at least be marginalized. The Republicans are literally worse than nothing. In the past they've been worse than nothing because their crooked leadership simply refused, out of self-interest and disinterest, to do anything to really help or even save their constituents when they had the power to do so, now they're still disinterested, but they're rapidly losing the ability to help them. Voting Republican is becoming a futile protest vote, like voting for a third party. As an editorial on AmRen recently put it "Whites . . . should at least start thinking about their future in a nation where the dominant party despises them and the other party ignores them." Abandon the Republican party and re-register as Democrats, then you might have a say in how you are robbed. If everyone who makes under 250k a year (that is everyone in the Republican party who isn't served by them) joined the Democrats it would kill two birds with one stone: consign the Republicans to a well deserved resting place on the ash heap of history, and cause the far left to split off from the Democratic party, a split that will be overtly racial since many whites already in the party will stay with the Democrats.

Expect the Republicans to try for a quick surrender on amnesty and some of the other cultural issues. They long to shed these problems and emerge as a permanent minority party that is only interested in money and has just enough blocking power to prevent their billionaire patrons from being hurt too much. They figure that if they rip those band-aids off quickly they can always rely on the Democrats fiscal irresponsibility and overt white-hating racism to drive enough voters into their arms to accomplish that goal.

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