2012 November 01 Thursday
Religiously Affiliated Youth Go Farther In School
Think religious people are more ignorant? Nope. Religion is the path to higher education.
Sociologists from Brigham Young University and Rice University found religiously-affiliated youth are 40 percent more likely to graduate high school than their unaffiliated peers and 70 percent more likely to enroll in college.
The researchers note that teens’ fellow church-goers are an important factor, serving as mentors who help teens set their sights high.
Will future generations be less religious because more educated people have fewer kids? Or will the more educated become more religious as higher IQ people with religious beliefs make more babies than higher IQ people without faith? What's getting selected for and against?
By Randall Parker at 2012 November 01 09:44 PM
Nope, sorry. Even if these sociologists are not deliberately lying, I don't think so. Don't get me wrong though; I believe that "religiously-affiliated youth are 40 percent more likely to graduate high school than their unaffiliated peers and 70 percent more likely to enroll in college", precisely due to our lousy educational system. Who would doubt that, when we have a country full of idiots who have graduated both high school and college?? However atheists and agnostics are not more ignorant than religious people. Those are two separate and different things and you know it.
I'll continue to stick to all those sturdy intellects like Stephen Hawking, Bertrand Russell, Carl Sagan, Charles Darwin, Rousseau, Chekhov, Oparin, Che Guevara, Ayn Rand, Marie Curie, David Hume, Richard Dawkins, John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, Jacob Bronowsky, Paul Dirac, Albert Einstein, Milton Friedman, Noam Chomsky, Carl Popper, Norman Angell, Enrico Fermi, Cavendish, Freeman Dyson, George Smoot, Aldous Huxley, Locke, Wittgenstein, Ingersoll, Bill Gates, Bill Maher, George Soros, Henry Fonda, Zac Efron, Sean Penn, I can go on and on, etc, etc, etc, etc, Many, many of them are Nobel Prize winners.
No Randall; you're way, way off this time, big time. Sorry.
Well hey, just get a load of this, will you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_atheists
I mean, just get a big, huge, vast, enormous, whole load of this, Randall: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_agnostics
You're looking at the top 0.1% (or less) of humanity, Soleman. This does nothing to counter the sociologists' result. For the vast majority of people, belonging to a church is correlated with better behavior. The high school dropouts that aren't religiously affiliated may well not even be predominantly atheist/agnostic - they may just be people whose convictions or actions are noncommittal.
I might add that Freeman Dyson described himself as a 'practicing Christian, just not a believing one'.
"You're looking at the top 0.1% (or less) of humanity, Soleman"
I think you got that wrong chief. The percentage of people in the world who declare themselves as atheist/agnostic or non religious is around 16%, not "0.1%". 16% is not so insignificant. I believe it is a greater percentage than declared homosexuals worldwide.
Zac Efron and Sean Penn are not the greatest examples of intelligent atheists or agnostics. I'll grant you Bertrand Russell, Stephen Hawking and some others, but Zacky or Sean? Not really.