2012 October 09 Tuesday
14 Year Old Girl Shot For Attending School In Pakistan

Malala Yousafzai was targeted by the Taliban for going to school and being outspoken about it.

A 14-year-old Pakistani girl who dared defy Islamic extremists by openly attending school was gunned down Tuesday by a bearded Taliban gunman, a shooting that ignited international outrage and plunged deeply divided Pakistan into a new round of soul-searching.

My reaction: keep these barbarians out of the West. Cultures are not all equal. Religions are not all equal. Some are better. Others are worse. Islam is one of the worst religions and is in drastic need of reformation. Whether it is even capable of reformation is still a mystery to me.

Female education is an obscenity to the Taliban.

A Taliban spokesman, Ehsanullah Ehsan, confirmed by phone that Ms. Yousafzai had been the target, calling her crusade for education rights an “obscenity.”

I am reminded of Razib Khan's posts You know barbarians when you see them and Why are Muslims so eloquently barbaric.

I am opposed to barbarism. I'm also opposed to those who promote myths (religious or otherwise) that are aimed at keeping us from developing a scientific understanding of the world and of human nature.

Share |      By Randall Parker at 2012 October 09 08:22 PM  Cultural Wars Religious

Jack said at October 9, 2012 9:54 PM:

"My reaction: keep these barbarians out of the West."

This is ironic since the Taliban themselves haven't invaded, but have been invaded by the West and are defending themselves, and since you go on to speak approvingly of Razib Khan, someone who has actually invaded the West and impregnated a white woman.

Jack said at October 9, 2012 10:37 PM:

I don't see how any patriarchy is worse than the contemporary anti-patriarchal West.

Patriarchy, whether in ancient Rome where fathers could legally beat and kill their wives and children, or in Islamic and other religious fundamentalisms, is clearly superior to the contemporary anti-patriarchal West.

Jack said at October 9, 2012 10:44 PM:

Valerius Maximus, Memorable Deeds and Sayings 6.3.9-12, 1st cent. A.D. L: http://www.stoa.org/diotima/anthology/wlgr/wlgr-romanlegal109.shtml

"Egnatius Metellus [8] ... took a cudgel and beat his wife to death because she had drunk some wine. Not only did no one charge him with a crime, but no one even blamed him. Everyone considered this an excellent example of one who had justly paid the penalty for violating the laws of sobriety."

Aulus Gellius, Attic Nights 10.23, 2nd cent. A.D. L: http://www.stoa.org/diotima/anthology/wlgr/wlgr-romanlegal111.shtml

"I have copied Cato's words from a speech called On the Dowry, in which it is stated that husbands who caught their wives in adultery could kill them: 'The husband', he says, 'who divorces his wife is her judge, as though he were a censor; [13] he has power if she has done something perverse and awful; if she has drunk wine she is punished; if she has done wrong with another man, she is condemned to death.' It is also written, regarding the right to kill: 'If you catch your wife in adultery, you can kill her with impunity; she, however, cannot dare to lay a finger on you if you commit adultery, nor is it the law.'"

map said at October 9, 2012 10:44 PM:

Why should Muslim women be educated? What is the purpose? To look down on Muslim men and reduce the rate of marriage and childbirth by educating women in sodomy and feminism?

Islam went through its period of free women. The result was near collapse. They don't want to make that mistake.

Jack said at October 9, 2012 10:57 PM:

Someone needs to let this Welsh father know that it's "better" to have his daughter go to school to fuck blacks than to act like a barbarian:


Jack said at October 9, 2012 11:06 PM:

"I am opposed to barbarism. I'm also opposed to those who promote myths (religious or otherwise) that are aimed at keeping us from developing a scientific understanding of the world and of human nature."

Islam and the other patriarchies past and present clearly have a better understanding of the world and human nature than the collapsing, anti-patriarchal contemporary West.

There are remnants of this understanding in the West of course:



Mthson said at October 10, 2012 2:37 AM:


Razib Khan is on the far-right tail of the bell curve. He raises the societal average, contributing far more than he takes.

(And his writing is extraordinary.)

Faruq Arshad said at October 10, 2012 4:08 AM:

jack,with the one paragraph, you deserve this years Nobel prize for literature. BRAVO

Black Death said at October 10, 2012 6:09 AM:

Until 1974, when it was repealed, [a] Texas statute provided:

Homicide is justifiable when committed by the husband upon one taken in the act of adultery with the wife, provided the killing take place before the parties to the act have separated. Such circumstance cannot justify a homicide where it appears that there has been, on the part of the husband, any connivance in or assent to the adulterous connection.

Mark Plus said at October 10, 2012 10:03 AM:

George Lakoff has taken some heat from conservatives for his depiction of conservatives' Strict Father Morality. But to me he makes a better case for conservatism than many conservatives have done. If anything, he has identified a kind of unified theory of conservatism which shows that the social and economic components in conservatism haven't come together randomly, but rather reflect the underlying logic that we live in a harsh and dangerous world, and that men have the better equipment for dealing with reality than women. Male authority ensures that men and their families have a better chance of surviving and reproducing in the long run.

James Bowery said at October 10, 2012 11:19 AM:

First things first.

Until you can successfully oppose "those who promote myths (religious or otherwise) that are aimed at keeping us from developing a scientific understanding of the world and of human nature." you have a simple choice:

Either abandon civilization or oppress women.

markov said at October 11, 2012 2:11 AM:

This wasn't really about female education per se. It seems to be about her being a traitor and serving the interests of the enemy:


"The letter, written in English, says a Taliban gunman "successfully targeted" Yousafzai "although she was young and a girl and the TTP does not believe in attacking women." It says Yousafzai, who gained global recognition at the age of 11 through an online diary she wrote for the BBC about TTP influence in her hometown of Mingora, was shot because "whom so ever leads a campaign against Islam and Shariah is ordered to be killed by Shariah."

The letter accuses Yousafzai of being "pro-West," promoting Western culture, and speaking out against Taliban militants -- charging that Yousafzai's "personality became a symbol of an anti-Shariah campaign." Using the term for Islamic holy warriors to refer to Taliban militants, the letter says that "Yousafzai was playing a vital role in bucking up the emotions" of Pakistan's military and government "and was inviting Muslims to hate mujahideen."

The letter goes on to argue that "[i]t is a clear command of Shariah that any female who, by any means, plays a role in the war against mujahideen should be killed.""

"The letter also addresses criticisms of the TTP's stance against girls' education. "The Tehrik Taliban's crime wasn't that they banned education for girls. Instead our crime is that we tried to bring the education system for both boys and girls under Shariah," the letter reads. "We are deadly against coeducation and a secular education system, and Shariah orders us to be against it."

The Taliban's justification concludes with a threat, saying: "If anyone thinks that Malala is targeted because of education, that's absolutely wrong and is propaganda by media. Malala is targeted because of her pioneer role in preaching secularism and so-called enlightened moderation. And whom so ever will commit so in the future too will be targeted again by the TTP.""

Zamman said at October 12, 2012 3:52 PM:

I hear that nowadays in America high school girls who are also honor students are placed in jail for skipping school.

Sometimes it is so embarrassing how similar we are to those Taliban, when it comes to freedom.


Clemens said at October 14, 2012 7:02 PM:

The reality is that if you want civilization, then you have to control women. You can't put your head in the sand and avoid facing this reality and fail to offer alternatives while lashing out at those who do confront this reality.


"In Spain, traveling through a cork forest near the Portuguese border, James Michener once stumbled upon a small town in a clearing, where he found posted to the oak door of the church a list of twelve rules. They'd been promulgated years before by a local bishop intent on shaping local life. And they capture something about Spanish life in the days of Franco and Catholic dominance.

Dated July 11, 1943, the poster read as follows:

1. Women shall not appear on the streets of this village with dresses that are too tight in those places which provoke the evil passions of men.

2. They must never wear dresses that are too short.

3. They must be particularly careful not to wear dresses that are low-cut in front.

4. It is shameful for women to walk in the streets with short sleeves.

5. Every woman who appears in the streets must wear stockings.

6. Women must not wear transparent or network cloth over those parts which decency requires to be covered.

7. At the age of twelve girls must begin to wear dresses that reach to the knee, and stockings at all times.

8. Little boys must not appear in the streets with their upper legs bare.

9. Girls must never walk in out-of-the-way places because to do so is both immoral and dangerous.

10. No decent woman or girl is ever seen on a bicycle.

11. No decent woman is ever seen wearing trousers.

12. What they call in the cities 'modern dancing' is strictly forbidden.

That's the translation provided in Michener's singular nonfiction book, Iberia, and every time I read it I can't help but marvel at how singularly focused the rule-makers were on female sexuality - and that all this happened in the lifetime of the older woman who owned the apartment where I boarded while I studied in Seville."

Mthson said at October 14, 2012 8:44 PM:


Silicon Valley, Scandinavia, and Singapore have gender equality, and they're among the nicest places on Earth.

But Scandinavians and Singaporeans do just as well in every country they live in.

So the big lesson seems to be that what really matters is to what degree the population has a civilization-oriented, high IQ temperament.

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