2012 October 04 Thursday
Progress: Graduate School Enrollment Declining In USA
It is so rare to see signs of progress that when trends shift in a favorable direction it is occasion to celebrate. The message that most grad degrees are worthless is starting to reach the general public.
New enrollment in graduate schools fell last year for the second consecutive year, according to a report from the Council of Graduate Schools.
The supply of smart people is too small. Why waste their minds studying subjects with little economic value? Why waste their careers teaching others those same subjects? There's lots of real work to be done and lots of high value problems to solve.
Enrollment in grad education is down 8.8%. Hurray! Now that's progress. Fewer people getting trained to believe liberal myths about the blank slate. Enrollment in arts and humanities fell 5.4%. More progress. Fewer people trying to get degrees in areas where the main employment is to train more people to get degrees in the same subjects. Down with disciplines that have journals just to give people places to publish so they can get tenure.
To speed this progress along what's needed: An end to federal and state funding for study of low value and negative value subjects. College grads who find themselves in the lower classes studied the wrong subject.
In contrast, the share of college graduates who place themselves in the lower class grew from 12% to 17%.
Why subsidize training someone to become lower class? Obviously the vast majority of lower class people did not need any training on how to become poor. Why let people pursue advanced degrees in low income work?
>"Enrollment in grad education is down 8.8%. Hurray! Now that's progress. Fewer people getting trained to believe liberal myths about the blank slate. Enrollment in arts and humanities fell 5.4%. More progress. Fewer people trying to get degrees in areas where the main employment is to train more people to get degrees in the same subjects. Down with disciplines that have journals just to give people places to publish so they can get tenure."
LOL, LOL and continue to LOL. You've put it so right. A little too bluntly, -that's why I'm loling- but correct. You'll probably hurt some sensitivities around.
Meanwhile Venezuela has the second highest rate of student enrollment in universities, right after Cuba. Great quality education by the way. I hear most of it is free, really free, not your typical "student aid" that keeps students in debt for the next 40 years after graduation.
Per capita GDP In Venezuela is $12,400. Versus $15,100 for Mexico. At least Venezuela is beating Cuba. But Venezuela has that low number in spite of the oil. Why do you suppose that is? At least Venezuela is beating Canada's 1960 per capita GDP by about $2000. Who knows, Venezuela might even catch up to Canada's 1970 per capita GDP.
I don't think the decline in grad school is strictly a good thing. It also reflects adverse changes in demographics. When the unscholarly fraction is steeply increasing in numbers while the scholarly fraction decreases, you expect these results.
The pursuit of higher knowledge is a facet of high civilization. Not all grad school is gender studies. What about biology, physics and chemistry, math and computer science, history, classic literature and languages? All of these fields are based on the pursuit of the truth and knowledge.
Will the coming demographic wave bother to learn, remember and teach our history after they have consumed us?
"Meanwhile Venezuela has the second highest rate of student enrollment in universities, right after Cuba. Great quality education by the way. I hear most of it is free, really free, not your typical "student aid" that keeps students in debt for the next 40 years after graduation."
I'll probably agree to the enrollment claim of yours, but I think in the end I think it's all about happiness. Yes, it's about how happy and healthy the people of a country live. So equality in a collectivism might not necessarily mean happiness. I don't want to be just equal to or equal as, necessarily.
How much access to goods and quality services do Venezuelans really have, when you consider all that oil they have? Now, when you mentioned France or Miterrand in another post I have nothing against that, and I have to accept that sometimes socialism works in some countries. Mainly European countries.
Sorry about the double "I think" redundancy.
I certainly think some grad school subjects are good. But precisely because the demographics are shifting so favorably we've got to conserve the brainy people for the skills that are necessary for civilization to function.
Chemistry: I don't see the demand. More chemical engineering would likely be a benefit. Bio? We have too many bio majors, at least undergrad. What does the market pay them? That's an important signal. We need more people who can design microfluidic devices. Biology needs engineers and physicists more than it needs biologists.
The pursuit of truth and knowledge: As this guy explained to me a long time ago, there are journals for English profs to publish in just to get tenure. What they write is worthless. They just have to get tenure. Where are the great novels by English profs? The great novels do not come from academics. That's also an important signal.
Same thing with music: Did we get better music compositions as a result of people going to grad school to study music? Nope. Again, that's an important signal. Where's the benefit? Studying detracts from doing in many subjects.
you are all nitwits.
Yes, it is good that grad school enrollment is down. School is general is a scam. Graduate school even worse.
The indoctrination you refer however mostly takes place at a younger age. The worldview is set by age 21 or so.
It is good that the word about grad school is starting to get out because it means less people victimized by the higher education industry.
"you are all nitwits."
What kind of a "genius" do we have here, that has the idea that we are all nitwits. Thinking that everybody is wrong and that only you are right is not a good symptom.