2012 August 30 Thursday
CIA Agents Shot In Mexico Were Fighting Drug Cartels

The United States is (rightly) treating Mexico as a failed state. Of course, the US government would deny treating Mexico as a failed state. But the US is (correctly) acting as if the Mexican government can't control its own sovereign territory.

MEXICO CITY — The two Americans who were wounded when gunmen fired on an American Embassy vehicle last week were Central Intelligence Agency employees sent as part of a multiagency effort to bolster Mexican efforts to fight drug traffickers, officials said on Tuesday.

The US sends military aid and training to the Mexican government because it has partially lost sovereign control. This loss of control makes Mexico a failed state. That CIA agents could get shot by Mexican federal police makes sense because the loyalties of Mexico's institutions have become corrupted by drug cartels.

We should make it extremely difficult for drugs and people to cross the US-Mexican border. Mexico would be better off if we did.

Share |      By Randall Parker at 2012 August 30 09:14 PM  Mexico

Black Death said at August 31, 2012 6:08 AM:

I've been to Mexico many times, not just the touristy border towns (which are currently extremely dangerous), but also deep down into the interior, where the drug lords now rule. I like the country and its people, but it is a failed state, and we really can't help them any more than they want to be helped. The history of Mexico is full of revolutions, corruption and periods of virtual anarchy, and this is just another sad chapter. Absolutely we should seal the border. We should also consider drug decriminalization - that would be the most effective method for putting the drug lords out of business.

Eric said at August 31, 2012 11:15 AM:

"High Level Member of Sinaloa Cartel Claims Multi-Ton Cocaine Trafficking Activities Were Sanctioned by DOJ, DEA and DHS/ICE"


"A high-level player with one of the most notorious narco-trafficking organizations in Mexico, the Sinaloa “cartel,” claims that he has been working with the U.S. government for years, according to pleadings filed recently in federal court in Chicago."

Eric said at August 31, 2012 11:21 AM:

CIA Jet Used for “Rendering” Suspects Crashes with Four Tons of Cocaine on Board


"Some news reports have linked the plane to the transport of terrorist suspects to the U.S. detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, but those reports cite logs that indicate only that the plane flew twice between Washington, D.C., and Guantanamo and once between Oxford, Conn., and Guantanamo. No terrorist suspects are known to have been transferred to Guantanamo directly from the United States.

The jet, carrying the tail number N987SA, changed hands twice in recent weeks. But how it ended up in the hands of suspected drug traffickers remains a mystery."

"Adding to the plane’s mystery are allegations that it made trips in 2003, 2004 and 2005 between the United States and Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where the U.S. detention center for suspected terrorists is located."

Wolf-Dog said at September 1, 2012 7:59 AM:

In particular, the brain damage that drugs cause represents a very significant economic problem in the long run. It would greatly pay economically to use absolutely draconian measures against the usage of drugs. If Americans and Europeans stop using drugs, then the drug lords cannot sell much.

I don't have the exact numbers but Americans probably use $100 billion worth of illegal drugs, mostly from South America. But the real damage is not just the $100 billion lost as "trade deficit", but a much higher amount of economic wealth is lost every year due to the loss of worker productivity.

Mike said at September 1, 2012 1:41 PM:

Mexico is a failed state all right, in part because the United States wants it that way, but I think Randall's heading should read, --CIA Agents Shot In Mexico Were WITH Drug Cartels.-- He typed -fighting- instead of -with-

Does that sound so far fetched? Remember "Fast and Furious"? Yeah you got it now. That's right, CIA is making sure a steady supply keeps coming in across that border. For decades now.

Mike said at September 1, 2012 1:48 PM:

Can you believe it!! Those Mexican Federales actually caught those CIA dildos. No wonder why things have gone the way they continue to go in Afghanistan. American intelligence dwarfed by MexFed!

Mike said at September 1, 2012 1:50 PM:

"We should also consider drug decriminalization - that would be the most effective method for putting the drug lords out of business."

I can only agree 100%, but CIA wil continue to make sure that doesn't happen.

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