2011 September 03 Saturday
Romney Tougher On Immigration Than Perry?

Sounds like Romney's willing to govern more as an immigration restrictionist as compared to Perry. Click thru and read some comparisons where Perry has taken more pro-immigration positions.

“Our country must do a better job of securing its borders, and as president, I will,” Romney told the Republican National Hispanic Assembly in Tampa, according to his prepared remarks. “That means completing construction of a high-tech fence, and investing in adequate manpower and resources.”

Romney, a former governor of Massachusetts, added: “We must stop providing the incentives that promote illegal immigration. As governor, I vetoed legislation that would have provided in-state tuition rates to illegal immigrants, and I strengthened the authority our state troopers had to enforce existing immigration laws.”

The Republican presidential nomination race matters a great deal because it looks like the unemployment rate will be quite high by November 2012 and therefore Obama is vulnerable. Hard for Obama to claim great governance skills when people will judge him on the economy:

In a statement, House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) noted that the new report indicates the unemployment rate will remain above 8 percent throughout Obama’s first term in office — a level administration officials said in 2009 could be avoided by enacting an expensive economic stimulus package.

Peak Oil is going to make it hard for US Presidents to get re-elected, at least until the American public stops thinking any President can make the economy grow when it is held back by higher resource prices. As long as most people think Presidents can do much to improve the economy Presidents are going to be held responsible the electorate when they fail to do so. In the 2012 election the limits of economic growth might give us a better immigration policy.

Share |      By Randall Parker at 2011 September 03 10:07 PM  Immigration Politics


Comments
solaris said at September 4, 2011 10:35 AM:

Romney is perceived to be more liberal than Perry, which gives him the freedom (or forces him, if you like) to be more conservative in practice. Perry, like Bush, is just assumed to be conservative - He's from Texas! He owns guns! He's an evangelical! - which gives him a lot more freedom to be the liberal big government Republican he actually is.

WJ said at September 4, 2011 12:15 PM:

Higher energy prices mean that people will have to be living closer together. Mass immigration of NAMs means that people want to be living farther apart. I've lived in a neighborhood that was becoming overrun by Hispanic illegals. They didn't take care of their homes, they didn't paint them, they didn't mow or weed their lawns, and multiple families per home was the norm rather than the exception. There was a cul-de-sac near us with 4 homes, all Hispanic-occupied, that generally had about 20 cars. That was our signal to sell. That's one more reason, aside from the low educational attainment of NAMs, to not import them.

Romney wants to win this time. The last time around he didn't appear to exploit the immigration issue, though he could have. And I especially agree with Solaris's comment: if elected, since Romney is viewed (not always fairly) as a flip-flopping Northeastern RINO, he won't be given the benefit of the doubt by conservatives. Romney's not my favorite. He's pretty pro-establishment, and endorsed Bob Bennett in last year's Utah senate race, but I'll vote for him over Perry solely because of immigration. I also think that Romney's smart enough that, if he realizes in office that enforcing immigration laws is the only way to reduce unemployment and the budget deficit, he'll do it.

Black Death said at September 4, 2011 2:10 PM:

The poor economy and relentlessly high unemployment numbers probably doom Obama. Many people see Perry as a Bush clone, and, of course, Bush was terrible on immigration. WJ correctly describes the view that many hold of Romney - a flip-flopping Northeastern RINO who lacks core convictions and will say whatever he needs to say to get elected. Numbers USA gives both men a D- on immigration. Talk is cheap, and I don't hold out much hope that whatever Republican is nominated and probably elected next year, anything will be done about the immigration mess.

solaris said at September 4, 2011 5:01 PM:

>"WJ correctly describes the view that many hold of Romney - a flip-flopping Northeastern RINO who lacks core convictions and will say whatever he needs to say to get elected."

The thing is, that is actually far preferable to the sort of person the GOP usually ends up nominating - somebody with liberal core convictions. There's something to be said for a GOP politician who might actually listen to the people who elected him for a change.

Randall Parker said at September 4, 2011 6:25 PM:

Solaris, great observation:

Romney is perceived to be more liberal than Perry, which gives him the freedom (or forces him, if you like) to be more conservative in practice. Perry, like Bush, is just assumed to be conservative - He's from Texas! He owns guns! He's an evangelical! - which gives him a lot more freedom to be the liberal big government Republican he actually is.

George W. Bush was not as conservative as he pretended to be.

Romney was governor of Massachusetts, which is a pretty liberal state. So he couldn't govern hard right. I suspect Romney as President would be more right-wing than his record as governor would lead one to expect. He doesn't seem like he believes in liberalism.

I think Dubya also fooled people into thinking he was right wing just by being very militaristic. But he was militaristic without improving US security (and actually weakened US security).

Black Death,

If unemployment goes even higher between now and the election (and another oil price spike is possible and would assure that) then I do not see how Obama gets reelected. OTOH, the Repubs could run a weak candidate.

My guess is Romney is a more competent candidate than Perry. But some of the Christians will hold his Mormonism against Romney. I'm not personally any less inclined to vote for him because he's a Mormon. But parts of the electorate oppose Mormonism.

Lono said at September 6, 2011 8:48 AM:

Perry attended Bilderberg and has every intention of aiding their plan to create a North American Union if he is elected President.

(and the influx of newly "legalized" immigrants that this involves)

How can this not be obvious by now?

Also - Romney will do the same.

Only Constitutionalist and/or strong Nationalist candidates like Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, etc. will oppose this - and trust me - if you are not in the top 2% of American wealth you DO want to oppose this.

Maybe some day a NAU will make sense - but it need not be rammed down our throat in such an exploitive, callous, and undemocratic way.

People need to think - doing the same thing as we have for the last several decades is what got us here - perhaps it is time to not vote for candidates who are so nakedly pro-globalisim?

Lucy said at September 24, 2011 8:32 PM:

I feel the commitment to solaris Romney is perceived as more liberal than Perry.
Romney wants to win this time, so the issue of immigration is proposing to do a better job securing the borders, and stop providing incentives that encourage illegal immigration to improve this problem.

Heman said at September 25, 2011 9:17 AM:

The poor economy and relentlessly high unemployment numbers probably doom Obama. Many people see Perry as a Bush clone, and, of course, Bush was terrible on immigration. WJ correctly describes the view that many hold of Romney - a flip-flopping Northeastern RINO who lacks core convictions and will say whatever he needs to say to get elected. Numbers USA gives both men a D- on immigration. Talk is cheap, and I don't hold out much hope that whatever Republican is nominated and probably elected next year, anything will be done about the immigration mess.


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