2011 June 11 Saturday
Women Benefit From Gadhafi's Rule In Libya

A segment of the women of Libya are some of Kaddafi's biggest fans because he's let them do stuff they otherwise wouldn't be able to do. Libya has one of the highest female participation rates in the labor market among Arab countries.

“Moammar Gadhafi is the one who opened the opportunities for us to advance. That’s why we cling to him, that’s why we love him,” says Mansour. “He gave us complete freedom as a woman to enter the police force, work as engineers, pilots, judges, lawyers. Anything.”

Among Gadhafi’s most ardent loyalists are a core of Libyan women who have risen to high-profile roles in the police, military and government and credit Gadhafi with giving them greater career avenues than many of their sisters elsewhere in the Arab world. They consider any threat to his regime a threat to their own advancement.

Barack Obama and a few other Western leaders want to overthrow Gadhafi. If that happens then the rights of women in Libya might go down. Whether democracy will benefit Libyan women remains to be seen.

The precedents so far are not encouraging. Egypt and Iraq both show what will happen when an Arab Muslim country loses its strong man rule. The overthrow of Hosni Mubarak has been bad news for Egypt's Christians and women just as Saddam Hussein's ouster led to persecutions and killings of Christians and suppression of women. Large numbers of Iraqi Christians fled Iraq as a result.

Share |      By Randall Parker at 2011 June 11 09:23 PM  Mideast Rights Democracy

bbartlog said at June 12, 2011 6:49 PM:

I never understood the hating on Khaddafi. He might not be much by western standards but he's about as good as you're likely to get in Africa, and Libya under his rule had the highest standard of living in Africa (of course oil had a lot to do with that too).

Engineer-Poet said at June 12, 2011 7:46 PM:

Pan Am flight 103 and the affair of the Bulgarian nurses are two good reasons to hate Khaddafi.

Lou Pagnucco said at June 13, 2011 11:39 AM:

With such concentrated media ownership, the quality of propaganda is deteriorating badly.
--- Perhaps time to outsource it?
--- Possibly an opportunity for unemployed, entrepreneurial, imaginative writers?

Libya is part of the plan that Gen. Wesley Clark revealed in 2007 in the short video:
"The Plan -- according to U.S. General Wesley Clark"

The Pan Am 103 evidence must have come from the same folk who gave us "Iraqi yellowcake", "Gulf of Tonkin", "Operation Northwoods", Kuwaiti incubator babies dying on the floor, Jessica Lynch heroics, Operation Gladio, Operation Ajax, Operation Mockingbird, Operation Ad Nauseum, ....
"CIA Involvement: Police chief: Lockerbie evidence was faked"

Some falsehoods, though, create national pride, purpose and cohesion that keep a country viable.
Some facts are dispiriting, depressing and demotivating, and are correctly suppressed.
A great power deserves great propaganda.

Chek It Out said at June 14, 2011 2:39 PM:

After reading Engineer-poet reason for hating Khaddafi, I think he needs no reason to hate. He just hates. Why would anybody hate a leader of a country that hasn't attacked the U.S. and a leader that is loved by his people?

Who cares if e.p. hates Khaddafi. Who cares if all Americans hate Khaddafi. He is the leader of a soverign country whether we like it or not, period.

Randall Parker said at June 19, 2011 11:46 AM:

Chek It Out,

Muammar should die due to Lockerbie.


I've read about the Gulf of Tonkin. I think sailors under pressure really did think they saw torpedoes.

Kuwaiti incubator babies: Yes, that was an amazing propaganda job. If memory seves, the girl was attending a school in DC or Virginia while she supposedly saw the incubator babies being thrown out.

Lockerbie: Well if Muammar didn't do it then who did?

Lou Pagnucco said at June 23, 2011 10:59 AM:


I am too bored to list a litany of faked casus-belli incidents.
Each intentionally mislead a public which always trusts Authority over The Enemy - must be a Darwinian effect.
(Taking the enemy's side is a good way to get ostracized, fired, defamed, assaulted, investigated, imprisoned...)
Tonkin never happened. Even if you assume an honest mistake, it could have be reversed quickly. It wasn't.
BTW, listing all other falsehoods peddled during the Vietnam War would take volumes. This is not an isolated incident.

On Lockerbie, it is clear the "evidence" was fraudulant.
Shouldn't you ask the people who faked the evidence who was resposible?
Good luck on that.

no i don't said at June 24, 2011 11:09 AM:

"Muammar should die due to Lockerbie"

Oh yes, I forgot... By the way, do you think he should have a trial first? or are we to return to the middle-age mentality of just issuing death sentences?

Sorry Randall, -and with all due respect to the victims and relatives-, but how many died in the Lockerbie incident? So tell me, according to your logic, who in the U.S. should die for all the civilian casualties in Afghanistan, Irak, Lybia, Vietnam, Chile, Hiroshima, etc, etc, etc. Ah, but that's not called "terrorism", right? That Hiroshima bomb must've been one of those "intelligent bombs" that was aimed only at the bad guys.

I don't know Randall, to me Muammar is just another politician parasite. Maybe Muammar should die because of that and also because we all remember Lockerbie, but the world remembers a little more than that. And as long as there's historic memory, the peoples of this world will continue to hate the way Americans so full of righteousness feel so sure about who should die and who should live.

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