2011 February 04 Friday
If Egypt Goes Muslim Fundamentalist Democratic

I see an upside of Egypt gets elections and its populace votes in a theocracy: educational value. A Muslim government voted into power by the majority would educate some Westerners on how Muslim voters have values incompatible with Western values. I'm not saying the Panglossian supporters of open borders and multi-culturalism will come to their senses. But other segments of Western populations would learn something from watching the majority choose Muslim leaders who will repress women, mistreat the Coptic Christians even worse than they are mistreated currently, and show more hostility toward Israel.

It is not clear that the learning experience will be sufficiently instructive to those who most need to learn. But I'd prefer more learning experiences that take place outside of Western countries.

In a post Dennis Mangan wrote about Muslims in Europe commenter "Albert", who claims to be a US State Department employee in Europe, lays out the extent to which he sees the US Government as an enemy of the American people and points out the double standard granted for Muslim conduct as compared to non-Muslims conduct by the multicultural leftists who now dominate the permanent USG.

With regard to the post American Diversity Outreach, it is my sad duty to report to you that the USG is actively promoting this not only in France but throughout the European Union and elsewhere. The USG views the future and the meaning of the very word “democracy” to mean a democracy on the modern liberal capitalist globalist United States model, i.e. mass democracy with an extremely multi-ethnic population. To that end, historical nations are merely administrative bodies with particular historical backgrounds. A Turkish German is German. A Muslim Frenchman is French. Anyone who says otherwise is evil and will not be tolerated. Moves by any European government to treat their citizens differently based on ethnicity are viewed by USG as the same a denying Blacks in the U.S. civil rights and sends them into a shrieking frenzy. Any political party that opposes this is “monitored” by the U.S. and U.S. political and diplomatic capital is spent to discredit them.

In addition, the U.S. is fully committed to the proposition that the U.S. and Europe are Muslim as well as Christian and Jewish and Whatever entities. To that end, the U.S. has supported Albania and has created the new Muslim state of Kosovo. Kosovo and Albania are both led by criminals and murderers but in our ideological zeal this is not seen for what it is. It is seen, typically, as a need for MORE U.S. involvement, more “good governance” programs, more lectures to other Europeans that they’re not doing their part to integrate these countries into the European family.

A quick example suffices to make my point. As is now well-known, USG has come down squarely on the side of the protesters in Egypt, calling for Mubarak to step down. In doing so, we have trumpeted the right of the Egyptian people to freedom of speech and assembly and their right to petition to government as to their greivances.

However, in Kosovo, when in the north a group of ethnic Serbs gathered peacefully to demonstrate against the Kosovo government by picketing outside a local government office, which resulted in someone—presumably a Muslim—rolling a grenade into the demonstration, killing some demonstrators, our USG man on the spot reported that while the situation was lamentable, true responsibility for the deaths fell to the Serbs, who should have known that such an open demonstration would provoke Muslim violence.

So much for freedom of speech and assembly! So much for the right to petition a government of one’s grievances!

I see this sort of thing many times a day. The only thing one can conclude from this is that the USG has become fanatically ideological and will cram any facts into contortions to fit its ideological world-view. That this crazed body carries such immense power and weight bodes extremely ill for both the American people and the world.

I fear that no learning experience is going to shake loose the ideology that now rules academia and the USG until we are too far gone for it to matter.

Share |      By Randall Parker at 2011 February 04 06:06 PM  MidEast Political Islam

Black Death said at February 7, 2011 5:42 AM:

Albert's comments are chilling but correct. He makes a clear exposition of the current globalist philosophy of the US government. As he notes, this view is sheared by many European governments.

As Albert points out, the roots of this ideology are buried deep in America's Protestant-Quaker past. Bloody crusades to erase evils have become the norm. The abolitionist mentality that, in part, led to the Civil War may be the earliest example. Woodrow Wilson involved the US in WW I to "make the world safe for democracy." Of, course, he ended up making it safe for Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Hirohito and a host of lesser fry. FDR and Truman ignored the monstrous crimes of Soviet dictator Josef Stalin. They believed their United Nations would fix everything. How'd that one work out?

Carter and the Shah, Reagan in Granada, Bush I in Panama and Kuwait, Clinton in the Balkans and Somalia, Bush II in Iraq and Afghanistan, and now Obama - presidents come and go, Congress swings back and forth between the two parties, but nothing changes.

Mark said at February 7, 2011 6:11 AM:

A bit of an aside from your main point, but another good consequence of democracy/Islamism in Egypt might be a lowering of the birth rate. Mubarak failed to get it below 3.0, despite significant government efforts. When apartheid ended in South Africa, black fertility there collapsed to something very close to replacement. When people are given opportunities to participate in society, they take advantage of those opportunities and put off having children.

The fertility decline in Egypt stalled because the fertility rates of the middle and upper classes stopped falling while still well above replacement. In countries with protracted fertility declines, the fertility of the middle and upper classes reaches replacement or below, then that of the lower classes follow suit.

Mubarak's regime is seen as utterly corrupt. Democracy might give people, especially the middle and upper classes, the perception of having a greater stake in society (regardless of how corrupt the replacement regime may turn out to be).

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