2010 August 07 Saturday
China Business Expanding In Iran

China is partying with Iran like there's no way Israel will attack.

China’s vice premier, Li Keqiang, told Iran’s visiting oil minister Friday that trade between the two countries is achieving “fruitful results.”

Fruitful indeed. China’s investors and traders are now filling a vacuum in Iran as businesses from many other nations, especially in Europe, pull out to comply with the latest call from the UN Security Council for nations to impose sanctions on Iran. (China voted for the resolution but is largely ignoring it.)

So get this: China goes along with the US and the EU in putting sanctions on Iran. Then China uses the opening that those sanctions create in order to win more business in Iran. The Western countries basically have pulled back from doing business with Iran in order to let China take over markets that Western countries previously dominated. Welcome to the 21st century.

Western policy makers can find other countries to sanction and thereby help Chian capture still more markets.

This puts the Israelis in a difficult position with the dimming of their hopes of pressuring Iran to stop nuclear weapons development. Will the Israelis launch a massive air strike in Iran? Do the Israelis even have the means to launch a strike on a scale sufficient to substantially delay Iranian nuclear weapons development?

Would the Israelis focus most of their attack on Iran's oil fields in order to make the Iranians unable to afford a nuclear weapons development?

Meanwhile, the Chinese are working on weapons that would make US aircraft carriers unusable anywhere near China.

U.S. naval planners are scrambling to deal with what analysts say is a game-changing weapon being developed by China — an unprecedented carrier-killing missile called the Dong Feng 21D that could be launched from land with enough accuracy to penetrate the defenses of even the most advanced moving aircraft carrier at a distance of more than 1,500 kilometers (900 miles).

Analysts say final testing of the missile could come as soon as the end of this year, though questions remain about how fast China will be able to perfect its accuracy to the level needed to threaten a moving carrier at sea.

The US government needs to come up with a foreign policy that doesn't require the US to possess unchallenged military dominance. The US military is in relative decline and continued Chinese economic growth will eventually make the Chinese more powerful.

Share |      By Randall Parker at 2010 August 07 08:26 PM  China

A.Prole said at August 8, 2010 3:47 AM:

Also, we must remember that naval warfare is solely about technology - it's really the equivalent of computer gaming, but writ large.
High technology depends on high IQ people.Not only is the average IQ of a Chinese substantially higher than that of an American (this gap is always increasing due to dysgenic immigration), but there are vastly more Chinese and theefore a bigger pool of super intelligent to draw from.Now that China has efficent universal education, the best brains can be culled and packed off to engineering school to develop bigger and better weapons.

Pumpkinhead said at August 8, 2010 7:10 AM:

I have no doubt that even with the new equipment the PRC has, we would beat them in war if our "leadership" had the correct attitude about winning in conflicts. Unfortunately, we don't. We are too busy edumakating stupid blacks and mestizos (while bringing more in to spend money on so that we can have more low IQ feeders). Civil War II out there...There's the fighting coming anyway.

Linda Gottfredson's Apprentice said at August 8, 2010 11:49 AM:

Without a doubt, war, as long as held elsewhere, is very profitable for some people: http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RS22926.pdf

no i don't said at August 8, 2010 5:58 PM:

"We are too busy edumakating stupid blacks and mestizos" Here we go again with the nazi talk.

Here are a few quotes from a very white man. You discover who it is...

The U.S. has produced quite a lot of people who have reasons for hating the country.
The U.S. has a very limited ability to see a conflict from the outside –or from above- Inability to go up a mental helicopter and see a conflict from above.
Inability to see your own legitimacy and illegitimacy, and the other side’s legitimacy and illegitimacy. To start thinking that maybe they have a point and that there might be a reality that can accommodate both sides.

In regards to the war in Afghanistan, it seems that the U.S. continues to embrace the same, and probably the only alternative possible: to become irrelevant; neither victory, nor defeat, nor withdrawal, no conflict resolution; simply becoming irrelevant.
It’s no longer a matter of talking bad about Obama and his team or any other U.S. president, it is simply that there are now leaders in other countries of an exceptional quality. There are now many countries whose leaders are more in tune with what happens in the world than the people leading the U.S. at present. It is really hard for the U.S. president and his team to rise up to the level of true international diplomacy and foreign affairs.

Irrelevance… that’s usually how empires die. “Empires die with a whimper and usually not with a bang” The U.S. is –very rapidly- becoming irrelevant.

Obama is intelligent, charming and has a brilliant rhetoric, bit he is just not well informed of the world around him. He’s simply out of touch with the world reality. -As most Americans-

The U.S. can be a superpower as much as it wants, but it is up against a force which has enormous amounts of world support.

Most of the world loves the U.S. Republic, but most of the world hates the U.S. Empire.
The U.S. is a country with so many universities, so many educated people, brilliant people, charming people, but we don’t understand why its media has to market so much stupidity.

no i don't said at August 8, 2010 6:00 PM:

4 Tips for the U.S.

1. Economically: Trade for Mutual Benefit and Equal Benefit. And that means to examine the impact of your economic deals in the world. Maybe some re-training of economists is required to do that.

2. Militarily: Pull your Bases Back. 800 in 150 countries is madness. Instead of all that, let’s have Conflict Resolution. A Department of Peace is a brilliant conception. If the U.S. had that one and even permitted it to shine, all the love for the U.S. around the world will return.

3. Politically: No More Arm-twisting; negotiations with the cards on the table; no threats, no secret warning calls to the U.N. Ambassador.

4. Get down from the idea of having a special mandate from God. The word is DIALOGUE.

Linda Gottfredson's Apprentice said at August 9, 2010 8:40 AM:

It seems that a bunch of SE Asian nations are stocking up on big-ticket military items in reaction to China as well, however, I doubt that they can really compete with China (See the WAPO article at: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/08/AR2010080802631.html?wprss=rss_world&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wp-dyn%2Frss%2Fworld%2Findex_xml+%28washingtonpost.com+-+World%29

James Bowery said at August 9, 2010 9:24 AM:

US foreign policy is only one symptom of a domestic problem.

Pumpkinhead said at August 9, 2010 6:08 PM:

no i don't said at August 8, 2010 5:58 PM:

So what is your point?

Diomil Rulz! said at August 9, 2010 9:05 PM:

4 Tips for the U.S....

Yeah, let's do those 4 things. Nothing but success. Look how the PRC follows the rules (not to mention the peace that the Oslo BS brought). If anyone is reading this in Beijing, they must be cracking up.

Akhilesh said at September 14, 2011 4:14 PM:

The strength of the Chinese population can be gauged by the very fact that today around 19.3 per cent of world population is Chinese.But then, such a figure based on the law of averages hides more than what it reveals. The figure that talks volumes about the Chinese sphere of influence, at least with respect to human capital, is that of 50 million plus overseas Chinese who are settled in various parts of the world and playing their bit in accelerating the fast-paced Chinese economy.

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