2010 June 29 Tuesday
Milton Friedman On Open Borders And Welfare State

The late great free market economist and monetary theorist Milton Friedman argued against open borders immigration as long as the welfare state exists.

Q: Dr. Friedman should the U.S.A. open its borders to all immigrants? What is your opinion on that?

A: Unfortunately no. You cannot simultaneously have free immigration and a welfare state.

Q: Do you oppose a unilateral reduction of tariffs and if not how can you oppose open immigration until the welfare state is eliminated?

A: I am in favor of the unilateral reduction of tariffs, but the movement of goods is a substitute for the movement of people. As long as you have a welfare state, I do not believe you can have a unilateral open immigration. I would like to see a world in which you could have open immigration, but stop kidding yourselves. On the other hand, the welfare state does not prevent unilateral free trade. I believe that they are in different categories.

The statement of the truth needs frequent repetition against a background din of falsehoods. Hence this post.

Share |      By Randall Parker at 2010 June 29 09:03 PM  Immigration Welfare State


Comments
Jeff said at July 5, 2010 7:05 AM:

AMERICA'S CANCER: IMMIGRATION.

Thanks for the article. It is good to hear Milton Friedman realized the obvious. Immigration is the biggest root of all our problems--economical, cultural, politicial and social.

Our greatest cancer is immigration-this country has become the toilet bowl of the world and lets in all kinds of con-men, criminals, terrorists, barbarians and thugs from all over the third world.

It was our own govt. that gave visas to the 9/11 hijackers and that led to trillion dollar Iraq and Afghan wars. It was our government that has allowed millions of fanatics to pour in and set up terror networks. Greedy corporations import cheap foreigners on bogus work visas by lying on H1/Labor Cert. applications while Americans stand in the unemployment line. Even third world politicians have better morals--they do not let foreigners pour in like our most crooked politicians do. Thanks to this third world war aided and abetted by crooked politicians, the US is now the third most populous nation on earth.

As foreigners pour in, there is more congestion and urban sprawl, shortages of land, water and food, more pollution, more cultural clashes and more crime. Jobs are becoming scarce and wages are falling due to a larger labor pool while home and other prices keep rising due to many more consumers. Oil reserves are becoming depleted and gas and heating oil prices are going through the roof. America is becoming a third-world country, where people will have to stand in line for hours for water and many will urinate and defecate on the roads and in stairwells due to lack of toilet facilities. Starvation and hunger, diseases and depravation will run rampant. Immigrants are bringing plague, AIDS, West Nile, SARS/Swine Flu, dengue fever and TB which kill thousands every year. Violence and corruption are spreading like wild fire.

Hospitals are overflowing with aliens who have not seen a doctor in ages but who come here with many diseases and demand, and get, free treatment at the taxpayer's expense, thanks to crooked clauses in laws like EMTALA which force hospitals to provide free care to aliens. This is bankrupting some hospitals and even Medicare and Medicaid, while millions of Americans remain uninsured, and unable to afford basic healthcare. Foreigners are getting jobs under affirmative action and then stealing secrets for their foreign govts. Uncle S(c)am has become a brown-nose of the world, but a mother-beater at home.

Our evil government and the corrupt media are in the pockets of the greedy corporations that want cheap drudge and are basically "trafficking in humans". Foreign lobbyists financed sometimes by foreign drug cartels and crime gangs pay-off our govt. kickbacks disguised as campaign contributions to buy them off to pass laws for easy immigration, to allow more foreigers to pour in here so the foreign countries can get rid of their problems and dump them on us. Our politicians (especially Demogangsters) are so greedy, evil and corrupt they will sell their own mother, so they have no qualms about selling their own motherland. 3 Million people invade this country every year--more than the REST of the world combined. This massive immigration is turning our nation into a third world country like Mozambique.

We can stop this cancer of immigration. It is time to join groups such as Numbers USA (http://www.numbersusa.com), or FAIR (http://www.fairus.org), the Minutemen, etc. and take a stand against the greatest evil ever heaped on our nation. It is also time to amend the constitution to allow national referenda, so the people can pass good laws themselves, since our corrupt evil government won't. For eg.

http://ni4d.us/index.htm
http://www.iandrinstitute.org/National%20I&R.htm

The most important law to pass is to ban immigration, and the easy visas that let the world's garbage in. This country need not be a toilet bowl of the world anymore.

no i don't said at July 7, 2010 5:07 PM:

Breath Jeff, breath. Try to relax and avoid drinking that 10th cup of coffee from dunkin donuts.

Now Jeff... con-men, criminals, terrorists, barbarians and thugs come from all nations including the U.S. There are also illegal american migrants in other countries, even if that's hard for you to believe. Many illegal american Jeff, many. Are we to think that those americans are the cause of a particular country's mess? Anyway, the cause for all the economic troubles in the U.S. is not immigration. See Jeff, The world is a little bigger and a little more complex than you interpret it to be. Compose yourself Jeff, please. Your attitude is a little like that of a blind man swinging his cane at and blaming the first one he suspects shoved him.

Where there are strong emotions we're liable to fool ourselves.

eric said at November 4, 2010 3:51 AM:

I agree with illegal and mass immigration being a problem. But not moderate, legal and stable immigration with assimilation. That's definitely great for both culture and economy. And the welfare state is certainly standing in the way of that, and it even stirs up anger and frustration like we see fom Jeff here. What Jeff said about referenda is clearly a sign of his lack of understanding politics. Letting all laws being passed by the people through referenda sounds like majority rule. And the US is not a pure democracy but a constitutional republic. Or a representative democracy if you will.


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