2009 December 14 Monday
Whole Eritrean Football Team Stays In Nairobi

After losing to Tanzania at a match in Nairobi Kenya all the players on the football team of Eritrea apparently decided to duck out of going home. Can you blame them? Nairobi looks good to an Eritrean.

What I want to know: Does Eritrea look good to a Somalian? Also, would a Somalian rather go to Zimbabwe more or less than a Zimbabwean would like to go to Somalia? Just what is the bottom in Africa?

Share |      By Randall Parker at 2009 December 14 08:16 PM  Chaotic Regions

not anon or anonymous said at December 15, 2009 7:02 AM:

It does kind of help explan why they lost the game. That poor Eritrean coach has to replace his whole team for each tournament.

Will the Kenyan government deport them as illegal aliens?

pimptastic said at December 15, 2009 8:22 AM:

Zimbabwe's the worst. It's centrally located, cut off from the periphery. Misery + Isolation = Hell.

mrbill said at December 15, 2009 6:13 PM:

Its driving a taxi just outside Detroit.

Michael L said at December 15, 2009 6:49 PM:

I think Zimbabwe should have things going for it vs Somalia. It probably has less drought, has plentiful good agricultural land (even if disorder prevents it from being optimally used) and the population must have declined from migration and early death. So it could have a future - in an "after the Huns leave" kind of way. Perhaps if the local thugs were more business-like, things would have started getting better already. In Somalia, by contrast, good agricultural land must be more of a problem; but then again, it's more decentralized so if you don't like the local thugs, maybe you can move to a better jurisdiction.

abe said at December 16, 2009 1:43 PM:

I'm a Somali reader of the Stevophere. I think there's some facts about this country some people don't seem to be aware of.

The country is breaking apart. A northern region of the country dominated by one clan now calls itself "Somaliland." The region is generally peaceful, and the people are moving towards democracy.

Somaliland is bordered by Puntland, again dominated by another clan, and they too are acting independently, though they aren't formally seeking secession from Somalia. Considering all the tribal warfare problems, if Somaliland is recognized by other countries -- and many Somalis in the UK and in the US are campaigning for this -- then Puntland is likely to follow suit. Once again, Puntland, like Somaliland, is generally stable and peaceful. Somaliland and Puntland comprise Northern Somalia.

It is mainly the rest of the country in which most of the chaos and suffering is taking place. In addition to all the chaos, Taliban like militants are imposing harsh religious laws (this style of Islam is alien to Somalia) and are flourishing for lack of any opposition. Currently, a group known as "Al-Shabab" controls more of Mogadishu than does the Somali government that the U.S and the West in general support. Couple of weeks ago, this group carried out a suicide bombing at a graduation ceremony in Mogadishu in order to kill government ministers. They killed three government ministers and along with them 20 or so medical students.

It is unfortunate that it is this region of Somalia that is the most hellish because it is the most fertile. It has two big rivers, and if the country was stable most farming would take place there.

Also, a significant number of the Somali population is in the region of Ethiopia that's partially surrounded by Somalia. This region is called the "Ogden." Much like the Eritirians, people in the Ogeden (99% somali) are seeking separation from Ethiopia.

Yes, Somalia is in dire straits but some regions more so than others. Cities like Hergeisa and Bosaso -- both port cities in the north -- are quite peaceful. If Somaliland and Puntland leave Somalia, then I doubt those regions would merit the dis-honor of "worst state."

Randall wrote: "Also, would a Somalian rather go to Zimbabwe more or less than a Zimbabwean would like to go to Somalia?"
Somalis went to South Africa and established businesses. They started undercutting the local African merchants.

The Somalis were killed.

I doubt Somalis would thrive better in Zimbabwe.

Bob Badour said at December 16, 2009 2:28 PM:
Somalis went to South Africa and established businesses. They started undercutting the local African merchants.

The Somalis were killed.

Sucks to be a market dominant minority, eh? There's a take-home lesson in there somewhere. I'm sure of it.

Michael said at December 17, 2009 2:57 AM:

Zimbabwe used to be a fairly nice place when Ian Smith was running things. The Breadbasket of Africa, people called it.

But then that horrible Jimmy Carter person replaced Smith with the "Freedom Fighter" Robert Mugabe, and things started going downhill.

And of course we all know how Mugabe ended up instituting a racist policy of stealing land from the very white farmers who were keeping the Country afloat.

Then you started having mass starvation.

This will be the template for the 21st Century: White Liberals will institute anti-White policies which end up hurting minorities just as much as they hurt Whites.

Once Liberals finish off the US Economy, just you watch how many Negroes in Africa start dying in the same way that Negroes in Zimbabwe are dying right now.

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