2009 December 13 Sunday
Private Jets And Limousines At Climatefest Copenhagen

Do as we say, not as we do.

More than 1,200 limousines have flooded into the Danish capital (forget about public transport). According to this newspaper's Copenhagen diarist, "most of these stretched vehicles have been driven hundreds of miles from Germany and Sweden. Last week France ordered an extra 42 of them. Only five of the limos are hybrid; the rest are petrol and diesel."

This great emission-fest will be mightily augmented at the conference's conclusion, when the really big cheeses - presidents, prime ministers, and (naturally) the Prince of Wales - arrive in upwards of 140 private jets.

Hybrid limos. That'd make all the difference. Finally the masses would believe the arguments for global warming.

Share |      By Randall Parker at 2009 December 13 11:00 PM  Elites Hypocrisy

miles said at December 14, 2009 6:11 PM:

Believe it or not Randall, the elite did indeed purchase "carbon offsets" for their transportation to the event. Im not kidding, I read that: (second to last paragraph in this article), http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,579666,00.html. The elite can afford carbon offsets for their limos and jets. Joe Sixpack however, cannot afford carbon offsets for his 250-mile-vacation to the beach, but that is what the elite would like to impose on the rest of us. I dont think Joe Sixpack and his brood can afford it right now.

Did you know that the proposed reparations the developed countries would pay to "developing" countries would run anywhere from 50 Billion to 200 Billion per year? http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/12/climate_treaty_reparations_would_cost_50-200bn_per_year.html.

The trading of carbon credits was literally, according to Vox Day, dreamed up by former employees of Enron. That ought to tell anyone everything they want to know about the scheme. We, the West, could have to pay climate reparations to developing nations, and nations would have to accept "caps" on how much carbon dioxide they could emit. They could "buy allowances" to get to emit more carbon from nations recieving more allowances than they needed. Guess who gets to choose how much allowances each country (and state) needs? The west would be forced to buy "allowances" from other nations for the right to emit carbon. Since the greens have not let us build the nuclear, geothermal, solar, and wave power plants we need, we'd have to buy a lot to simply heat and cool our homes. Its just a huge scam designed to fleece the West and give its wealth to others. Thats why the issue has been on the radar for me for so long.

In a way it works like a neg, designed to make the west qualify itself by giving its wealth to the third world. If we had the 100 nuclear plants we should have been building for the last 30 years, it would probably be a non-issue......................but lawsuits have stopped us (look at who has been filing those suits, Sierra, Greenpeace, ELF, etc.). I never bought into global warming, and frankly wouldn't mind seeing us have about 5 straight record cold years so severe that we faced double-digit increases in food prices********

****** If that happened, I suppose the greens would then say that their latest studies indicate that carbon dioxide actually blocks the sun and is making the earth cool or something. There is no winning with these people. Arguing with liars debating in bad faith is generally a empty procedure, which is why I detest them so passionately.

Randall Parker said at December 14, 2009 8:39 PM:


For $200 billion a year we could build at least 20 and maybe even 30 nukes per year. At 20 nukes per year we could build 400 nukes in 20 years which is 4 times as many as we have now. With just 250 more nukes then we could shut down all our coal electric plants.

With more nukes we could shift all houses from heating oil to ground sink electric heat pumps, electrify the rails, and charge up pluggable hybrids.

Why we should pay the less developed countries rather than just build up infrastructure that obsolesces fossil fuels is beyond me.

Eric Johnson said at December 15, 2009 2:39 AM:

Me too. It just seems insane, if global warming is real, which I assume it probably is. We could lead the way and us and Japan could help China switch to nuclear. McCain really wanted to nuke up.

Engineer-Poet said at December 17, 2009 5:59 AM:

If Vaclav Dostal's price projections in his PhD thesis are remotely correct, we could build nukes for perhaps $1500/kW in today's dollars.  But they wouldn't be LWRs.

The issue of carbon offsets isn't so much that they're income transfers but that they're likely to be outright fraudulent.  Hansen's example is irrefutable:  a forester takes money for the carbon absorbed by a tree farm (which it would do anyway), but there is no reduction in the demand for paper and lumber so trees are cut somewhere else.  Money gets paid to move emissions around, not cut them.

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