2009 October 17 Saturday
Poll In Mexico: Immigration Amnesty Means More Illegals
A Zogby poll of Mexicans in Mexico that if Congress passes another illegal immigrant amnesty then more Mexicans will decide to enter the United States illegally. No surprise here. But tell that to the US Congress. It is simple really: If you do not enforce the law more people will break it.
- A clear majority of people in Mexico, 56 percent, thought giving legal status to illegal immigrants in the United States would make it more likely that people they know would go to the United States illegally. Just 17 percent thought it would make Mexicans less likely to go illegally. The rest were unsure or thought it would make no difference.
- Of Mexicans with a member of their immediate household in the United States, 65 percent said a legalization program would make people they know more likely to go to America illegally.
- Two-thirds of Mexicans know someone living in the United States; one-third said an immediate member of their household was living in the United States.
- Interest in going to the United States remains strong even in the current recession, with 36 percent of Mexicans (39 million people) saying they would move to the United States if they could. At present, 12 to 13 million Mexico-born people live in the United States.
- A new Pew Research Center poll also found that about one-third of Mexicans would go to the United States if they could.
- An overwhelming majority (69 percent) of people in Mexico thought that the primary loyalty of Mexican-Americans (Mexico- and U.S.-born) should be to Mexico. Just 20 percent said it should be to the United States. The rest were unsure.
The immigration amnesty supporters in the US Congress call themselves supporters of immigration reform and avoid the term amnesty. They pretend they are promoting a permanent solution. But all they are doing to promoting more of the same with another round of amnesty to be followed by a big surge in illegal immigration.
To stop the illegal immigrant influx we need to enforce immigration laws, not grant amnesties to the immigrant law breakers.
The immigration amnesty stakes are quite high. As Audacious Epigone points out, 41 million Mexicans would move to the United States if they could.
More than one-third of Mexicans living south of the border profess that they would head to the US if they had the "means and opportunity" to do so. That's 41 million aspiring settlers from a country where the purchasing power parity is less then one-third what it is in the US. There is no better way to increase poverty in the US than to import it on such a massive scale.
America has enough people, especially enough poor people who want Robin Hood government for their benefit. Audacious Epigone points out GSS data that shows that we also get a lower support for private property rights from letting in more Mexicans. Oh the irony of libertarians supporting open borders. They support policies that undermine support for their strongly held belief in property rights.
Oh the irony of libertarians supporting open borders. They support policies that undermine support for their strongly held belief in property rights.
Mexicans are tribalistic; we are civic-minded. They are fatalistic; we believe we are masters of our own destinies. They are collectivist; we are individualistic. Mexicans are emotion-driven; we value the rational. I have debated with Mexicans/other types of Hispanics on immigration boards for years. These are the attributes that come out from their culture, very strongly: tribalism and a very pronounced inability to frame any kind of rational argument. This is not to say that Mexicans/Hispanics cannot rise above their cultural attributes on an individual basis because I know many who have. But, collectively, that is what their culture is all about: tribalism, fatalism, collectivism, lack of civic-mindedness.
The two cultures are simply wildly incompatible. You don't even have to get into the IQ issue to see that.
You are so right Mary. These Mexicans are so tribalistic, even primitive. Just take a look:
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