2007 July 01 Sunday
Muslim Doctors In British Airport Bombing Plot

Two of the terrorist suspects arrested in Britain for involvement in the Glasgow airport attack are medical doctors working at British hospitals.

Both doctors were working at UK hospitals and were apparently here legally.

The revelation raises the horrifying prospect that Al Qaeda propaganda is reaching beyond disaffected young Muslims.

"These are highly-educated, articulate and intelligent people," one security source said.

Ignorance, unemployment, and poverty were not needed to drive these Muslim men to terrorism. What our elites do not want to admit: Islam is the root problem.

One of the doctors has a wife and baby.

One of the doctors, the man arrested on the M6, was said to be a Jordanian-born doctor at the North Staffordshire Hospital in Stoke-on-Trent.

He lived with his wife and baby in a rented house in Newcastle-under-Lyme, Staffordshire, where forensic officers were carrying out a detailed search last night.

If Muslims were kept out of the West then the Western countries would have much less risk of terrorism and Western women would be at less risk of oppression and rape.

The British knew some attack was coming up but have far too many Jihadists to watch.

Recently intercepted conversations, known as "chatter", had already alerted them that jihadists were hoping to attack Britain, most probably in a place where many people congregate.

But against a backdrop of 30 current plots, 200 suspected terrorist cells and close to 2,000 known suspects to keep under surveillance, the police and intelligence agencies were unable to pinpoint the exact timing or the targets.

That's the problem with having a large Muslim subpopulation living in your society: Too many wannabe terrorists to watch. Who knows when some group will get up the nerve and get together the supplies they need to carry out an attack? Plus, with so many groups to watch some will not get noticed at all. Attacks are inevitable.

Islamic terrorist groups are targeting university students for recruitment. This latest plot involved two doctors. Well, eventually the terrorists will manage to recruit some engineers or chemists or physicists to build them effective bombs. Or they'll just manage to get an electronic "bomb making instructions for dummies" book off the internet. The bombers in Iraq have gotten much better. The same will happen with the Muslim bombers in Britain.

The British ought to deport the illegal alien Muslims and stop Muslim immigration. The Brits also ought to revoke permanent residency for the non-citizen resident Muslims and deport them as well. Also, do citizenship buy-outs and pay citizen Muslims to leave.

Update:

In recent years, Britain has become a hornet's nest of Islamic extremism. The domestic intelligence service MI5 is currently investigating 30 major terror plots in the U.K. and has under surveillance more than 1,600 individuals, who are operating as part of 200 British-based terror networks.[1]In April, British courts convicted an Islamic terror cell of attempting to kill thousands of shoppers at the U.K.'s largest shopping mall, in Bluewater, Kent. Between September 2001 and December 2006, there were 1,166 terrorism-related arrests in the U.K., with more than 400 people charged.[2]

The scale of the problem involving young Islamic extremists in Britain was highlighted in a major 2005 British Foreign Office/Home Office study, "Young Muslims and Extremism." Terrorist organizations such as al-Qaeda have found a fertile hunting ground in the U.K., where half of Muslims are under the age of 25, and where there is widespread opposition to the U.S.–British-led war on terror. The report revealed that extremist groups are secretly recruiting well-educated, affluent Muslims from British universities, in addition to impoverished, underachieving Muslims through mosques and prisons. Former MI5 Director General Eliza Manningham-Buller estimates that more than 100,000 British citizens consider the July 2005 London attacks "justified."

Highly educated terrorists. Education is not a panacea that makes everyone into a secular liberal.

Share |      By Randall Parker at 2007 July 01 08:41 PM  Immigration Terrorism


Comments
John S Bolton said at July 1, 2007 11:16 PM:

The idea that extra exposure to education would assimilate a hostile population, is
being shown to be false.
Since very few can qualify for medical education, the outlook for the other
90+% is dismal.
Anti-discrimination and openness as values above loyalty to fellow citizens,
are a sort of pacifism so long as Islam exists.

Mensarefugee said at July 1, 2007 11:21 PM:

and Western women would be at less risk of oppression and rape.
----------------------------------

Ever heard of non-muslim Blacks?

adrian said at July 2, 2007 5:11 AM:

Randall -

Interesting point about education. But there is a flip side to it - many Muslim university students are NOT intelligent. Blair's mad plan to make everybody go to college has lowered entry standards drastically, and so students, many of them Pakistani, who don't have the g to compete with their fellow students (be it educationally or socially (ie for women)) join these little Islamist organizations out of frustration. It's probably very annoying being thrown amongst hundreds of young people who are manifestly more intelligent than you are, so they turn to whatever makes them 'supermen'. Educate them, don't educate them - it doesn't matter: there is no solution to this problem other than stopping them from coming or persuading them to leave.

Kenelm Digby said at July 2, 2007 5:18 AM:

The CIA should seriously consider viewing Britain in the same way that it views such 'suspect' nations as Jordan, Iran, Libya etc.
It certainly has the sheer critical mass of population of Islamic wannabe terrorists.

adrian said at July 2, 2007 5:46 AM:

Many of the poorer less intelligent Muslims come from traditional families as well, and are probably appalled (and drawn to) the libertinism of the modern college. Anyway the other problem with education is its content - they are not exactly taught to love the west. I glanced briefly over the history faculty of the University of London: postcolonial-gender-sexuality mumbo jumbo predominated in the 'Research Interests' of most professors. So these low IQ Muslims are taught A. To hate the west as it is an evil imperial power, and B. To hate it even more, as they allow the teaching of decadent bullshit like 'Queer studies'.

The British Muslim terrorist stands at a curious intersection of pretty much every single western folly of the last fifty years - the blank slate education system, the rigorous Oikophobia, the elevation of gays and transgendered individuals to sainted status, the 'free love' legacy of the sixties, and, of course, the decision to allow this Trojan Horse into our midst. This is going to fall apart in one astonishing earthquake, not little bits here and there, but in one orgy of destruction and chaos, it simply cannot endure, no civilization that crucifies itself this much can endure for long, either there will be a renaissance or apocalypse, or both.

In a different context I'm reminded of a great line by Tom Wolfe in his majesterial article 'Sorry, But Your Soul Just Died:

"I suddenly had a picture of the entire astonishing edifice collapsing and modern man plunging headlong back into the primordial ooze. He's floundering, sloshing about, gulping for air, frantically treading ooze, when he feels something huge and smooth swim beneath him and boost him up, like some almighty dolphin. He can't see it, but he's much impressed. He names it God."

Purenoiz said at July 2, 2007 8:25 AM:

Hey mensarufugee, get your head out of the sand regarding rape.

Key Facts

* Every two and a half minutes, somewhere in America, someone is sexually assaulted.
* One in six American women are victims of sexual assault, and one in 33 men.
* In 2004-2005, there were an average annual 200,780 victims of rape, attempted rape or sexual assault.
* About 44% of rape victims are under age 18, and 80% are under age 30.
* Since 1993, rape/sexual assault has fallen by over 69%.

"Contrary to the belief that rapists are hiding in the bushes or in the shadows of the parking garage, almost two-thirds of all rapes were committed by someone who is known to the victim. 73% of sexual assaults were perpetrated by a non-stranger — 38% of perpetrators were a friend or acquaintance of the victim, 28% were an intimate and 7% were another relative."
National Crime Victimization Survey, 2005

http://www.rainn.org/statistics/index.html

So Muslim men are more likely to be raping and beating Muslim women than "western" women.

The main problem in regards to Muslim culture is the ferocity to which they strike out at that which they hate. Contrary to popular belief, western men are only slightly less violent to women than our Muslim counterparts. But we are getting better with every generation, they are not.

John S Bolton said at July 2, 2007 5:25 PM:

If rape were all about power, as our unspeakably dishonest leftist professoriate all but universally insists,
how could ~1/2 of the victims be under 18 and 80% under 30?
Certainly adults and over 30's have higher status, power and other attributes that the
supposedly 'power'-motivated rapists would wish to stand above?
A government-endowed professoriate can easily ignore any facts which contradict a convenient theory, though.

John S Bolton said at July 2, 2007 5:42 PM:

The Islamic terror offensive continues undiminished, even reaching, for recruitment, the top percentiles of their population's capacity for achievement.
The veil of the temple is rent from bottom to top.
The degradation of moslem culture is absolute;
the violence and unreason of its envy and malice against its betters, is pervasive, reaching the highest levels, where
the faking of ability is nearly impossible.
Now before a quaking and treacherous political class,
the command of the nation must be issued:
loyalty is owed to the citizen above the foreigner, and especially above the foreigners who increase the level of aggression by arriving here!
Along these lines, here is an interesting quote from a VFR
contributor, offering suggestions on the situation on Britain:
"The only effective means of eliminating Islamic terror and rendering our society safe from random acts of mass murder, is the steady removal of Moslems and Islamic culture from Britain. All Third World immigrants retain their ancestral nation passports as citizenship is essential for property and business ownership in most Third World countries, and particularly Islamic ones."

"Britain must refuse entry to Moslems, deport those who are here illegally and start a gradual emigration of Moslems who have acquired British citizenship to their ancestral lands where they can live in Moslem societies and conduct themselves as they please without bothering us."
Usable foreign connections are very common among undesirable immigrants and their descendants, and these can be exploited. What to do with those who have no such connections is another question, but perhaps a small one,
relative to the current Islamic terror offensive.

Randall Parker said at July 2, 2007 7:07 PM:

Purenoiz,

What did Mensarefugee say that was incorrect?

The interracial rape statistics clearly show white women are at far greater risk of rape by blacks than black women are of rape by whites:

Because interracial rape is now overwhelmingly black on white, it has become difficult to do research on it or to find relevant statistics. The FBI keeps very detailed national records on crime, but the way it presents rape data obscures the racial element rather than clarifies it. Dr. William Wilbanks, a criminologist at Florida International University, had to sift carefully through the data to find that in 1988 there were 9,406 cases of black-on-white rape and fewer than ten cases of white-on-black rape. [320] Another researcher concludes that in 1989, blacks were three or four times more likely to commit rape than whites, and that black men raped white women thirty times as often as white men raped black women. [321]

Interracial crime figures are even worse than they sound. Since there are more than six times as many whites as blacks in America, it means that any given black person is vastly more likely to commit a crime against a white than vice versa.

More recent numbers:

In the United States in 2005, 37,460 white females were sexually assaulted or raped by a black man, while between zero and ten black women were sexually assaulted or raped by a white man.

What this means is that every day in the United States, over one hundred white women are raped or sexually assaulted by a black man.

purenoiz said at July 2, 2007 8:17 PM:

Hey randall,

Your source from that link must not have read the article he sourced. In it he states
"According to the Wikipedia article on rape, as many as half of all rape charges nationally are determined by police and prosecutors to be false:"

So I looked up the article, and what did he do, but pick an arbitrary number from one study, and use that as evidence that rapes don't occur nearly as often as reported.
Instead the author of the article sates don't trust one source, check many.

And dear Mr Bolton,
Never underestimate the deranged mind capacity for vile behavior. Men have been known to rape children and elderly, areas where there is no apparent sexual attraction.
We as men can be pretty depraved, don't use it as a pathetic attempt to fulfill your attacks on liberals. It's boring

And Randall the discussion was on Muslims, not blacks.
way to go out of your way and attack a bystander (innocent or not).

Randall Parker said at July 2, 2007 8:47 PM:

adrian,

Yes, when a group isn't as smart as groups around it the resentment aimed at the other groups can be dangerous. The problem with Islam is that it focuses the resentment in deadly ways.

We need to keep lower performing groups out of the West so that we minimize the resentment and resulting hostility.

Randall Parker said at July 2, 2007 9:15 PM:

Purenoiz,

The bit about half of rape charges as fake rings a bell with me. I came across an article in the NY Times a few months back quoting a woman prosecutor in NYC who said half the rape accusations they receive are false. I was shocked by this. It is such an incredibly serious charge to make. The estimates for rate of totally bogus rape charges varies considerably but some studies find a quarter or 40% or other numbers in that range. See here and here and here.

I don't get your "way to go out of your way and attack a bystander (innocent or not)." Quoting facts is not an attack.

But I got distracted by your reply to Mensarefugee and didn't respond to himself. So let me do that:

Mensarefugee,

When I said "and Western women would be at less risk of oppression and rape" note that I said less. Yes, they'll still be at risk of rape, especially from existing groups that commit rape at high rates. But the point remains that we shouldn't make the problem worse by bringing in more groups that'll do terrible things to women.

tommy said at July 2, 2007 11:30 PM:

So Muslim men are more likely to be raping and beating Muslim women than "western" women.

I highly doubt that is true in Europe, where rape by Muslim "youths" is really a concern. There the problem tends to take the form of Muslim gang rapists targeting western women who do not adhere to Muslim dress and customs.

Purenoiz said at July 3, 2007 8:24 AM:

Well I be damned, I may have been wrong about this.
But then again, what I hear is "THE MUSLIMS ARE COMING TO RAPE OUR WOMEN AND STEAL OUR LAND"
And in many accounts this seems to be true.

"An Islamic mufti in Copenhagen has sparked a political outcry after publicly declaring that women who refuse to wear head scarves are "asking for rape.""

WTF mate?

So after the Muslims are ejected from the west, can we talk about white on white rape, or would you rather focus on interracial rape (black on white). I know a lot of my white liberal friends would call me a racist, but screw em, I have no room for the hate and intolerance preached by far to many (even if they are the minority) Muslim clerics.


The penalty for rapists should be death if sufficient evidence (DNA+trauma) exists. And I don't believe capital punishment prevents crime, but in this case it would. Hard to be a repeat offender if your dead. Women have been marginalized and penalized for being born female for to long, trust them if they make claims to have been raped, but still do thorough police work. Only ONE (1) , thats ONE study showed 41% false accusation rate, others show much lower, or somewhere in between.
One last thing to consider, if the majority of rapes are perpetrated by people known to the victim, i.e date rape. Then that points to more black men dating white women and few white men dating black women.

Stephen said at July 3, 2007 7:58 PM:

Can I point out that the common denominator is not religion, education or colour.

99.9999% of the time the bad person is male.

green mamba said at July 4, 2007 6:14 AM:

A female acquaintance of mine who often visited Europe in her youth told me yesterday that it was not uncommon in the streets of Germany for Muslim men to grab at her butt and breasts while she was walking past them alone (this was when she was around twelve or thirteen). This little fact was more of an eye-opener for me than the statistics I've encountered recently on the Muslim rape of white women in Europe.

Randall Parker said at July 4, 2007 9:58 AM:

Purenoiz,

As for white-on-white rape: We need better ways to identify rapists. I'm expecting genetic correlations with rape to be found. Plus, I'm expecting brain scan equipment to help identify those at greatest risk of committing rape.

Stephen,

Yes, men are more dangerous in general. But some men are a lot more dangerous than other men. Most men do not ever commit a rape. Women need to make choices that reduce their odds of getting attacked.

A white woman is an order of magnitude safer (if not more) living around white people than living around black people. Women routinely use that knowledge while rarely speaking of it. The truth is taboo. But they use the truth anyway because their fear is great enough to drive their decision-making in spite of what they've been told they should believe.

Bob Badour said at July 8, 2007 10:25 AM:

I am curious how the white-on-asian rape statistics compare to the asian-on-white statistics. I wonder: Would they show anywhere near as large a difference as the black-on-white versus white-on-black statistics?

The first link you provided had an empty href. Did the researcher tease out these figures too?

The second link lead to raw statistics that reported for white victims and for black victims but not for victims of other races.

Jay Draiman said at July 9, 2007 10:32 AM:

It proves that all nations must screen carfully and monitor foreigners due to today's terrorist threats that are very real

James in Moscow said at July 10, 2007 11:07 AM:

Stepping out of the box? You are well & truly IN the box. You'll be telling us next that the London 7/7 attacks were comitted by militant Muslims too ! Check out www.JulySeventh.co.uk and get a life or better still search for David Icke's talks on Youtube.com


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