2007 April 28 Saturday
Some Canadian Cities To Be Half Immigrant in 2031

Canadian natives, you are being replaced.

If you think Greater Vancouver is ethnically diverse now, wait until 2031, when about one out of two people in the region will have been born outside of Canada.

This is the region's demographic future if current trends -- strong immigration flows from Asia and a low Canadian birth rate -- continue over the next two decades, according to a new Statistics Canada report.

"In 2031, about 50 per cent of the population in the census area of Vancouver will be immigrants," said Eric Caron Malenfant, one of the authors of the Statistics Canada report, called Demographic Changes in Canada from 1971 to 2001 Across an Urban-to-Rural Gradient.

Okay, suppose you want to buy a big house in Vancouver. What will this immigration do? Drive the price of housing up. Each acre of land will cost more because more people will compete to buy land. People who are getting born in Vancouver today are less likely to be able to afford to live there 20 years from now than their parents are today. That's a pattern we see in California and other big destinations for immigrants. Get ready to get pushed out.

Elite interests on immigration clash with popular interests. So far the elites have managed to fool the masses about just how much their interests conflict. Population growth is not going to raise your living standard by increasing the scale of mass production. That's getting done with factories moved to other countries where labor costs are much lower. Also, declining costs of communications allow people to collaborate better at a distance. Economy of scale benefits are cancelled out by higher housing prices and by the need for more pollution control measures that allow more people to live in small areas.

Share |      By Randall Parker at 2007 April 28 03:33 PM  Immigration Demographics

nz conservative said at April 28, 2007 7:06 PM:

Rasing property prices are a big concern in Canada, New Zealand and Australia where Asian immigration in highest. The problem is that property prices are increasing massively while wages are increasing very modestly.

In 1990, the average house price in New Zealand was about $80,000 US while the average wage was about $18,000 US. Today the average house price is about $190,000 US while the average wage is about $22, 000 US. Hence, the average native family is no better off. Unfortunately the baby boomers really love rising house prices as they can borrow money against the value of their home to buy rental property, and since they are close to retirement, they don't really care about stagnating wages.

Such high house prices can only be sustained by high immigration and Asian credit. Eventually this Asian credit, will dry up, what will happen then?

Mark said at April 28, 2007 9:04 PM:

Increased immigration probably does raise total GDP. More workers, more stuff produced. But....., increased immigration probably (if this from third world countries, almost certainly) does not increase the standard of living for those that are ready their, ie. per capita GDP. If the new immigrants have a lower productivity than the existing residents, then total GDP may rise, but per capita GDP, and the average standard of living, can fall.

Vee said at April 29, 2007 1:12 PM:

Interestingly, in my country we have a similar situation. Rich European foreigners are buying prime land, which has driven up property prices in our seafront neighbourhoods making it virtually impossible to buy what one could perhaps have contemplated 10 years ago.
Refugees and immigrants that you describe stay in quite poor suburbs competing for space and work.
However, the irony is that one can easily qualify as a doctor here to go to Canada on a work permit. Lots of us do that, work a couple of years there or in the UK, then head back and buy our dream house here quite cheap (compared to Canada)
Maybe an ageing population in UK is part of the problem that puts a supply on medical staff and other immigrant workers.

bah said at April 29, 2007 1:58 PM:

ok while i do in general disagree with your assessment on american immigration--i do agree that it warrants much concern.
however, i don't understand what you find problematic with canada's immigration system. your idea that developed nations should only allow assimilable and intelligent immigrants is actually implemented in canada. canadian immigrants tend to have higher iqs etc than their us counterparts. and most of them are asian--not your "pesky mexicans or middle easterners".

Randall Parker said at April 29, 2007 2:55 PM:


But Canada has a large and growing Muslim population. A Sharia law arbitration board in Canada has some Canadian feminists (including women of Middle Eastern descent from Muslim families) complaining that Muslim women will be under enormous pressure from their families to accept Sharia law.

Jihad Watch calls it Sharia by stealth.

As for skills requirements for immigrants: There are large loopholes in both Canada's and Australia's laws. It does not work out as well in practice as it is claimed to.

Also, I'm still making two other arguments against immigration:

1) Higher populations push up land costs.

2) Populations from other cultures remove your ability to live in a society compatible with your own culture. Other cultures make demands and changes. If you want Canada to become more Asian I guess that's not a problem. If you do not like Canadian culture you might even think it a feature.

Randall Parker said at April 29, 2007 3:04 PM:

In September 2005 international protests were held against Sharia law in Canada.

I find it amazing that Sharia law even has a chance in Canada. Sharia law is anathema to what feminists claim to believe. That Sharia law has a chance reflects the extent to which leftist multiculturalists have been preaching cultural relativism and the view that all cultures are equal (as Vee also tries to argue in another thread).

Me, I'm a Western chauvinist. Muslims should stay in Muslim countries where they can live under Sharia law. Groups that have high crime rates should be kept out. Groups that claim they can't compete against whites without racial preferences should be kept out. I refuse to be discriminated against for the benefit of other ethnic groups and cultures.

Randall Parker said at April 29, 2007 3:32 PM:

Homa Ar-Jomand correctly understands the nature of Islam:

Homa Ar-Jomand, campaign protest co-ordinator, believes that the system should be completely secular.

"We strongly believe that Islam has never been moderated," she said, adding that faith-based arbitration of family disputes is not relevant in the modern world.

But many Muslims believe that because Canada is a secular country, its legal system makes it difficult for them to govern themselves by the laws of their religion.

Francis said at April 30, 2007 2:47 PM:

Any Canadians who live in the Vancouver and the surrounding areas will not be living under sharia law, which is the good news. However, learning Mandarin will be a definite help when the PRC takes de facto control over those provinces. Get ahead of the curve while you can. Maybe the Chinese will rename it something cool sounding like the Vancouver Colonial Prefecture.

Big Bill said at May 1, 2007 10:13 PM:

I love the photo caption in the article:

"Canada is seen as a neutral country that is friendly to immigrants. Canada is a country of immigrants and it projects an image that makes immigrants feel very comfortable," Eleanor Yuen, Head of Asian Library at the University of B.C.

Let me translate:

"Canada is a giant bus station: it has no culture. No one really "lives" here. No one is really "from" Canada. We are all just passing through. We all have our real homes and cultures elsewhere that we keep racially safe and pure (and visit often!). We just hang out here to make money. Please don't date our daughters and sons. OK? We'll stay in our neighborhood and you stay in yours."

Anon said at May 2, 2007 11:17 AM:

Eleanor Yuen, Head of Asian Library at the University of B.C.

She will obviously be part of the new Chinese colonial administration.

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