Black high school student Kenny Turner was attacked by an ice pick wielding neo-Nazi.
When a teen lifted his baggy shorts and flashed a swastika and German army tattoos at Kenny Turner outside his high school last June, the popular black Lake Elsinore senior just kept walking.
"It was the second-to-last day of the school year," recalled Turner, now 19. "I didn't want to be in trouble with one day left."
But Turner and two witnesses said the young man, armed with an ice pick, ran after him and stabbed him while screaming a racial slur. It's an incident that, although rare, is emblematic of a growing problem in the Inland Empire, authorities say.
The number of reported hate crimes in Riverside and San Bernardino counties has risen sharply in recent years, fueled in part by dramatic demographic changes that experts say are bringing more minorities into a region that has long been home to pockets of white supremacists.
What would be those dramatic demographic changes? Hispanics, of course.
So are you expecting the guy's name to be Smith or Clarke or Jones? Nope:
Last month, Armando Perez, 19, pleaded guilty to a felony hate crime assault for stabbing Turner. Perez could not be reached for comment.
Perez identified himself as white to the police. Well, this is not implausible. Some people from Mexico are pure Spanish. Spain is as European as, say, Italy or Serbia. Perez is expected to be out of jail in 6 months. So why, under America's system of racial preferences for the supposedly oppressed non-whites, should Perez be eligible for racial preferences as a Hispanic if he applies to college or to get a government job? Should DNA testing be instituted for Hispanics to separate out the pure Europeans and make them ineligible for preferences?
Update: Because of racial intermarriage the question about DNA testing strikes me as something that may be taken seriously at some point in public policy discussions. Suppose Bob Smith marries Maria Gonzales and they have a kid named Bill Smith. Then suppose Bob's sister Betty Smith marries Maria's brother Juan and they have a child named Pedro Gonzalez. Do you think the admissions officials at, say, Harvard are going to treat Bill Smith and Pedro Gonzalez equally? Of course not. Who will get to define what race you are in the future?
By Randall Parker at 2005 March 04 09:43 AM Immigration Culture Clash | TrackBackThere is no end of news articles about the absurdities that stem from assigning Certified Victim Group status to everyone in the country except males of European or Jewish ancestry. It is part of what Heather Mac Donald called "the burden of bad ideas." And although I may be overoptimistic, I do think that most people who aren't federal judges or government drones would agree that scrutinizing everyone's ethnic makeup, like the content labels on food packages, serves no function except to allow those with some kind of "minority" status to claim their rights to queue-jumping and set-asides.
So why do we put up with this? Because in reality we have little to no power over policies that matter in a country dominated by judges and administrators who make the real decisions. We the People are limited to expressing our will via largely symbolic and irrelevant elections, plus TV and Internet polls. Our situation is very much like the first century in Rome: Augustus and successive emperors were careful to keep the outward institutions and rituals of the republic alive, while draining them of actual power to set policies.
What to do?
What to do?
Constitutional amendment?
nobody cares. lol
Perez sounds like a skinhead, and he did what skinheads do - attack someone who is not part of their own gang and then claim the attack was justified for some reactionary racist reason, thereby hoping to encourage reprisals. His motives are not political, just violent.
Skinheads live for violence and they know that inflaming racial and ethnic divisions encourages that violence - for them, racism is merely a means to an end. Indeed, while skinheads are predominantly anglo saxon, there are black, hispanic, muslim and jewish skinheads, and the gangs don't divide along ethnic lines (ie there are mixed race gangs). If a skinhead gang can't create violent confrontations with the broader community, they will happily attack neighbouring skinhead gangs (I once watched a documentary where the skinhead group phoned ahead to make sure that the neighbouring gang would be home when they dropped in).
Also, as a general principal, I think its unsafe to use the actions of teenagers to draw an inference applying to the broader adult population. Teenagers are reservoirs of hormones, angst, peer pressure etc, and by their mid-20s the vast majority will cringe when they recall their former actions and beliefs. Note that skinheads, just like most gang members, grow out of it as they mature.
Predictably, la Times is the source of this rather opaque article which Randall has kindly translated for us. Even though the perp is a Hispanic, most of the piece is about white supremecists.
I had to smirk when I read this quote from Mark Potok: "Any kind of major demographic change has the potential to spark racial turbulence and hate crimes." He is a flack for the Southern Poverty Law Center, a major race hustling organization that has gotten rich stirring up racial animus and then peddling "tolerance."
The article also says that there's actually been a decrease in 'hate' crime. Its interesting to note that arresting a handful of key people can result in a significant drop in hate crime, which indicates that *active* racism isn't endemic in the area.
Whether Perez is a--take a deep breath--"skinhead" is not the point. The fact that he is a white "Hispanic" who assaulted a black, is. Incidents like this put the lie to the much-touted "alliance" between blacks & Latinos. Ain't gonna happen, folks.
I'm not suprised that Perez self-identifies as "white," as I know many so-called "Hispanics" from Mexico & South America who do the same. The problem is, the multi-cult encourages them to think of themselves as "non-white," partly I suspect in order to bolster the ranks of the non-white vanguard. As a white nationalist I would have no problem reaching out to these folks.
Incidents like this put the lie to the much-touted "alliance" between blacks & Latinos.
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The idea of that sort of alliance is risible. Blacks, being on average less educated and earning lower wages than whites or Asians, stand to be hurt the most by the continuing influx of immigrants from Mexico. The pool of lower-skilled labor is growing, depressing the wages and job opportunities for the lower classes in the US. The Democratic Party should be beating the drum on tightening up the border, assuming they actually care about the working class of America. But then again, they have the black vote in the bag, so why actually do something to help them if you risk alienating someone else?
Rick, two Jewish applicants, when applying to the University of Chicago Law School, classified themselves as Hispanic. One of the two has a Mexican American mother, and the other was born in Panama. See http://www.discriminations.us/storage/002100.html
Hispanic Americans are underrepresented as lawyers; however, Jewish Americans are overrepresented as lawyers.
C41, many Democrats and many union leaders think that more Hispanics equals more Democrats and more union members, respectively. Many black leaders think that more Hispanics equals more support for affirmative action. See http://www.vdare.com/sailer/harvard_quotas.htm
I think that more black voters would favor the current immigration situation with the continuation of affirmative action preferences for blacks rather than an immigration time-out and no affirmative action.
Africans seem to always dwell on the bottom rung in all the worlds societies where they reside.
im tired of all of yall white crackers trying to say that blacks are on the bottom of everything, but most of them white people try to be black. I mean, if you dont like black people, dont watch the NFL, or the NBA, because thats mostly black. RIGHT?
We got fuckin people in JAPAN trying to be black, cause of hip hop is so large in nations across the world. I know one thing, if a skinhead comes in my hood, that cracker would get is head blown off. We aint taking no shit from you white bitches nomore. And all this hispanics are the most minorities in AMERICA, half of'em are fuckin illegal. So there are more blacks than these fuckin cock roach hispanics. thats what there like, fuckin roaches, they have sex for the fun of it. Thats all mexicans do is have sex and babies. If you mexicans love mexico so much, then go back.
if i'm southamerican but white looking how would people decribe me?
also a roach like kc-crip says???
all the black girls in your hood spend money buying jennifer lopez shit!!!
and wetting their panties for ricky martin and marc anthony!!!
but one thing that he says is true some hispanics specially mexicans reproduce like bunnies.
Black girls dont like them mexican muthafucka's, they like poeple like nelly, bow-wow, and other rappers and singers, and black girls dont be buying that jlo bullshit here in the midwest or the south, thats probably in new york or something. Im getting tired of all types of people dissin black people, because SOME of us may be drug dealers and hustlers, but there are many smart blacks out here. We make up most of the entertainment world and music world, sports world, we are in the white house, we have our on colleges, we are doing our thing, and its just the begining.
YOU ALSO HAVE BLACK NAZIS , THOSE WHO HAVE HATRED FOE JEWS AND WOULD LIKE TO EMBRACE CERTAIN
IDEALOGIES , BUT WHO ARE FOR INTERGRATION. I AM FOR INTERGRATION , HEY I LOVE ALL TYPES OF WOMEN
BUT PREFER MAINLY WHITE EUROPEAN. GERMAN , SWEDISH , ENGLISH ETC.. , BUT NOT SURE ABOUT JEWS
i dont understand whats wrong with you guys the world as a whole needs to find God and if you dont you'll never understand why you sound so ignorant please when it all comes down to it we are all the same with diffrent shades of skin come on people are peolpe i think you all have been misguided and need to get a religion ..... i just thought i would tell you im African american my dad believ it or not comes from a country between sout america and he is an illegal immigrant and he is now in the navy and i think you all shouldn't hold prejudice because before you actually try to judge you should to try to find out the diffrences in your culture ..... thats my 2 cents i hope i saved someones soul ....... no one is better in gods eyes and he is the one we have to prove ourself to.
HISPANICS ARE NOT A RACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Contrary to what the PC white liberal elitists would have you believe.Hispanics are a cultural group with one thing in common: they speak spanish.There are many white hispanics in latin america, there are also however plenty of 'mestizos' who are dark haired and dark skinned. Mestizos are considered to be a mixture of european and native stock. Mexico is very different than many other latin american countries considering the fact that the Majority of mexicans have more than %50 and up to %100 native stock. They DO NOT consider themselves descendants of the spanish conquistadors!!!![except the wealthy whiter ones]-they consider themselves descendants of the Aztecs.Also, people in latin america of european descent dont like to be referred to as Latino's-that term applies more to mestizos.
fuck spics
THERES MORE BLACK HISPANICS THAN WHITE ONES.
THE ONLY PLACE WITH AT 100% WHITE IS ARGENTINA. AND THATS ONLY BECAUSE EUROPEANS ARE CONSTANTLY MOVING BECAUSE OF THE REGION. PLUS WHY ARENT MEXICANS JUST CALLED INDIANS.AND PUERTO RICANS JUST CALLED BLACKS?
nazi lowridaz are gonna show that wetback perez wats the deal, in jail. We dont say you have to look kind of white,some arizona indians look white, jews look really white but there not! That little spic perez is confused, and is gonna have a rude awakening once he meets some real hammerskins, REAL AMERICANS.
HISPANICS ARE A RACE OF MUD PEOPLE!!! Even THE lighter shades of mud!!!!!
there is a rise in skinheas since the immigration problem. just in california the is over 125,000. Skinheads want to join gangs like blacks and hispanics but the only one that will accept them is natzi movement.they want to sale drugs and kill people like the crips in compton and all they have to do is join local AB. Others get into it through punk rock. Most punks are not that far from being natzis. Kind of like taggers arent that far from geting into gangs.I think that a civil war is gonna break out. Come to san diego youll see groups of natzis walking down the streets on your average day.They wont do anything to you there generally not violent, the crips on the other hand are the doing all the killing and trafficing. The crips kill more crips in one weekend than skinheads kill blacks in a lifetime.
I say the government should stop helping the blacks most of them live of welfare and selling drugs so the faster the government gets ride of welfare the faster were get ride of those lazy ass blacks. The nazi low riders are an organization that was started in jail by the aryan brotherhood to except hispanics into their ranks so that about low riders showing Perez the true in jail makes me laugh. Im hispanic and i go to a mixed school of blacks and hispanics and they all know that i hate blacks and they dont fuck with me. i dont believe in multi racial shit between hispanics and blacks or an alliance and for those people hispanics that are wanna be black were fucken call them mayateros or nigger wanna be's and im my class we only have one and no one likes that fuck face. Im a national socialist and proud of it.
That's quite idiotic, also Punk is far from right-winged nazi ideologly as you can get. Maybe you're referring to Oi!, with bands like Skrewdriver. (and some bands who bitch about being working class yet take pride in it!) We punks are liberal, the skinz are conservative, there's a difference. I'm black, I don't live on welfare, I live in a small town, we're all working class/lower class people. Sure, your wannabe 'gangsta' (white or black) types will try to be all 'hardcore' and sell drugs, and speak all that lame 'gangsta' lingo. But, you have people like that everywhere. There's a difference between being lazy and being unemployed. Most lazy people are the ones selling the drugs, unemployed people just can't acquire jobs. Also National Socialism and all that racist b/s is a flawed philosophy. Then again racism is a flawed philosophy whether you are black, white, hispanic, asian, etc,... You can't judge a majority of a group or race of people based on a few negative encounters you've had, because there are always going to be people who don't fit that criteria.
i'm getting fed up with all this talk of killing black people, just want to let you know that there is a black man out here that's really fed up!(as in malcolm x, and black panther party fed up). there is nonthing being done because it's what everyone wants, (whites, hispanics, and also asians). and as far as jackson, and sharpton, uncle tom sell outs. and of course we all know how the government feels. conspiracy as always, nonthing's changed, except it's with hispanics now. but it wont last, trust me, it wont last "baby". "pharaoh dragon".
check it out, you can piss and moan all you want but there is no way to truly identify with others. color race none of that shit really matters any more. out on the streets fend for yourself. dont care about no fucking niggers wet backs greedy ass jews or anybody that cant accept me for who i am.dont like me? well guess what you dont have to fucking like me.ill keep to myself as lomg as no one enters my world. ill fight for whats mine right here and now.dont need no fucking lable to hide behind. call me what you want ill wear my bolts with pride and never back down!keep your friends close and your enemies closer......
All you suckers, the real LATIN culture is that of Rome, No American (as a continent) country is latin in heritage except maybe Argentina and Uruguay. And we, real latins (no hispanics), are the ones that should be honored, for all the present culture, philosophy, even the alphabet and numbers you are using come from US. All WASP were just bavarian tribes as we conquered them. And for negros??? Don't even let me start...
The only cultures and races worthy are those of southern Europe, rest of you... Really made me laugh that negro saying they have their things started... What? It took you 200 years to learn the language, and you don't even speak it correctly??
America is a new exploration, north and south compaired to the rest of the world.Look at history and Europe, Spain,Italy,France,ETC.There are natives and Europeans of north and south America and most of them stay with their own kind.And people from Spain have many shades of hair and skin.Some are nationalistic,anti Zionist,anti commie.Fascism was in Europe way before The rise of the Nazi Empire.And for my Brothers stuck on the blond hair and Blue eyes.Take a good look at Hitler,Mussolini,Jose Antonio who are all good Fascist. 828
Oh yea the word Hispanic comes from Hispanic which was a part of Rome S.P.Q.R. Read your History my friends. 828
hey ZION Ever heard of the Nazi lowriders? Some of the members have Hispanic Sur names meaning they were half-white half-latino. La Mirada Punks are a racist white gang from LA. 40% of the members have some Latino blood. one of the gang leaders is half-white half-latino. The point to this? I guess it seems Latinos are more likely to do the dirty work. Dont believe me? Look it up for yourself.
I have zero respect for dirty ass mexicans simply because they talk so much about mexican pride and nationalism yet they sneak over here everday by the hundreds and have the nerve to demand the same freedoms and privlages that we (blacks) fought and died for..that shit may fly over in the west and mid west states but over here in NY/NJ area yall are just the help..the worst part is yall think ur better than blacks why?? Cuz u work 80 hours a week for 4$ an hour or is it the fact that u reproduce at an obscene rate u spics truley make my stomach turn thats the very reason i used to pistol whip and rob you dirty motherfuckers not that i needed the money it just used to piss me off that they were taking money out of a real americans pocket so I'd take there money..they were only gonna spend it on beer and glue anyway..I swear b4 my time is up I'm gonna kill one you nasty midgets motherfuckers..DEATH to ALL MEXICANS!!!
Just because this man, who committed the stabbing, has some Mestizo ancestry does not mean that he is sealed out from supporting or understanding the Nazi philosophy.. If a philosophy rings true to someone, it is irrelevant what their background is.. I've known people who were raised in one religion, but later in life adopt another, because their new, adopted religion speaks truth to them.. a Mexican man can look at the world and surmise that Blacks and Jews are destructive to a society, no?
The Italians are the only Latins. Every Italian man is a Latino and every Italian woman is a Latina. Italy is the birthplace of the Latins and during the Roman Empire all Italians became Latins and adopted the Latin Language.
Latin and Latino is the same word and any twisting of it is out of place. Italians don't need to go around and claim to be "Latins". We just are,period.
All the Spanish-speaking people of the so-called "Latin-America" cannot claim any Latin identity. They only speak a language,Spanish, which derives from the old Latin Language of Italy which in turn was imposed upon the Spaniards when the ancient Italians,the Romans, colonized Spain,France,Portugal,England,Germany Northern Africa and the Middle East.
Furthermore, 99% of the Spanish names; Maria, Francisco (Francesco, in Italian) just to mention two are Italian names. As a matter of the fact most the Western European First names of people are of Italian/Roman/Latin origin.
There is no "Latin" America. There is is Latin America,as a nostalgic idea, inhabited by Ibero-Indians with nothing to do with the Latin culture of the real Patria latina: Italia.
fuck all u mothafuckas u are all goona die
and go to hell were no one is gonna treat u different