2003 April 01 Tuesday
Islamic Textbooks In America Attack Christians, Jews
The New York Daily News conducted an investigation of textbooks used by Islamic grade schools and high schools in America. Of course the Islamic textbooks say unnice things about Christians and Jews.
At the Muslim Center Elementary School on Geranium Ave. in Flushing, Queens, a textbook for grades 6 through 8 teaches that Jews "subscribe to a belief in racial superiority. … Their religion even teaches them to call down curses upon the worship places of non-Jews whenever they pass by them! They arrogantly refer to anyone who is not Jewish as 'gentiles,' equating them with sin."
The book "What Islam Is All About" states that, "The Christians also worship statues."
It is important to know what it is about something that one finds objectionable if one is going to object to it.
And Eugene Fisher, associate director for interreligious affairs for the National Conference of Catholic Bishops in Washington, commented, "Give me a break. We don't worship statues. That's teaching their children misunderstandings about Christianity that will lead them to grow up thinking all that stuff in the Koran about idolaters refers to us, their neighbors."
Eugene Fisher isn't exactly being helpful here. Are we supposed to believe that there are non-Christian statue-woshippers that the Koran is really criticising and that Muslims should direct their hostility toward those statue-worshippers instead of toward Christians? I mean, if the Muslims did that would that then make Islam okay?
Isn't the Koran's even harsher judgement of people who are not "people of the book" (i.e. not Christians or Jews - though I think there is one other group - Zoroastrians? - who are also considered "people of the book" by Muslims) an even bigger reason to object to Islam?
Here's the problem with Islam: It contains core beliefs that are incompatible with a classically liberal society that strives to respect the choices of individuals as long as those choices do not violate the rights of others. These Islamic textbooks are just one more manifestation of that incompatibility.
on the peoples of the book-this is a confusing issue. zoroastrians really weren't mentioned initially, but got added later. the koran does mention 'sabaeans'-which probably refers to the precursors of the gnostic mandeans that still live(d) in the marshes of southern iraq. hindus also got added on later. as you can see, islam had to compromise with reality, the turco-muslim conquerors of northern india couldn't kill every single idolater in sight, could they?
there are four main schools of sunni muslim thought-hanbali, shafi, maliki & hanafi. the hanbali are the most conservative-the salafi/wahabbi sect comes out of it-and the hanafi is the most liberal. no surprise, hanafi thought dominates southern & central asia as well as balkan & turkish islam-these are areas with significant non-muslim populations and/or interactions-the hanbali are much more strict with unbelievers (which is defines VERY broadly) and more likely to enjoy wholesale slaughter of "idolaters."
the problem with islam is that when you ask "what would muhammed do?" you get way too much specific shit. protestant and mormon christians ask "what would jesus do?", but to be frank, jesus didn't do much normal in his everyday life (he didn't have sex, get married & beat his children for instance)-so it has more spiritual/metaphorical significance. on the other hand, the fact that muhammed married a 9 year old girl and screwed her when she was 10 means that muslims look positively on this sort of thing-after all, it's what muhammed would do....
For YOur info. We do not know if the Prophet screwed her at 10 or 11 or 12. The main thing is that you need to look at the message if that is OK. If that is Ok, than you can accept the messanger. Otherwise you should check your heart because it is full of vile, hatred.
"Mohamed", It is impossible to look on someone as a messenger when they do vile things.
That being said, you have now turned me off from the Muslim religion.
Its time to Musliminate you!
I'm sorry I don't mean to be harsh or anything but Mohamed, "For YOur info. We do not know if the Prophet screwed her at 10 or 11 or 12." don't you read your own religious texts?
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)'
And for you Mr. "death to the prophet", you were turned off to the muslim religion before you even read his comment. Muslimination...?? Did you think up that hate term all by yourself?